One other thing that should be clarified is that, as the cars came out of the factory, they were assembled into 11 car sets with the proper type of cars in each consist- and no attempt was made to keep the sets pure CB&Q, pure WP or pure D&RGW. There were cars from each owner in every set- like a shuffled deck of cards.
John Olson
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Just to clarify, the number of train sets was predicated on route mileage, IIRC. CB&Q had the longest, DRGW the shortest.
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Brian Ehni
There were 6 complete CZ trainsets originally- with extra cars ordered at a later date. This allowed daily eastbound and westbound service between Oakland and Chicago. The CB&Q ordered 3 A-B-A sets of F-3's (9960 ABC, 9961 ABC & 9962 ABC) for CZ service. The CB&Q owned 3 sets of CZ equipment, Western Pacific 2 sets and the D&RGW 1 set.
John Olson Billings, Mt
I may be late to the party, but since I just re-watched the video last night I thought I'd bring this up...
During the D&RGW section of the film they point out a meet of an eastbound and westbound CZ, so we know at least the D&RGW had multiple trainsets. Seeing as how the CB&Q portion of the route was more than a 12-hour trip, would it not be probable that there were actually 2 (or more) consists? Since there was only 1 F3 ABA set, there had to be something else pulling the trains. Even if they changed power somewhere along the route so that the F3 lash-up could stay on the western side, there still had to be other locos pulling the CZ.
According to the 1950 CZ timetable, departure from Chicago was at 3:30pm. The train arrived in Denver at 8:20am the following morning, all being handled by the CB&Q. The eastbound left Denver at 7:15pm and arrived in Chicago at 1:30pm the next day (again, all Burlington). It would be impossible for the same units arriving in Denver at 8 in the morning to make it back to Chicago for that day's afternoon departure. With a daily schedule, the CB&Q must have had at least one more consist to handle the "every other day" turnaround in the timetable.
Am I missing something?
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