John
Thanks for this justification.
I’m still trying to figure out why these cars were chosen for scrapping rather than
earlier-built cars, most of which survived until about 1936.
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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Single Deck Stock Cars
One thing you might keep in mind, there was a huge drop in coal
traffic in the mid-20's, so I'm sure there was a big surplus of gondola cars,
then.
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Subject: RE: [CBQ] CB&Q 36 ft
Single Deck Stock Cars
Hol & Charlie
There were 1500 cars in the 55950-57449
series (SM-18 and SM-18A) but the Burlington didn’t have
that many dump cars through its entire history. Prior to the start of
class numbers, there were about 215 cars built between about 1891 and
1902. Then there were five classes of dump cars with a total of 523 cars
(possibly including some of the pre-1910 cars) Also, there were no
ballast cars built in 1914 and even the earliest ones were still in use in
1926-28 (in case there was confusion between dump and ballast cars).
However, looking at gondolas, I may have the answer. I think “National dump
cars” should read “National Dump cars”.
All-steel gondolas GA-10, GA-11, GA-12, GA-13 and GE-2 were all built with
National Dump rigging. GA-10 and GA-11 were built in 1913 while the other
three groups - GA-12 (182000-183149), GA-13 (183150-183249) and GE-2
(179700-180199) were built in 1914 by Haskell & Barker. GA-12 and GE-2 cars
were constructed to the same plan. All three groups had drop bottoms, the
difference being the GA’s had fixed ends while the GE’s had drop ends.
Looking at the ORER’s, the number of cars in these three classes reduced only
slightly between 1918 and 1925 when there was a sudden drop from 1512 cars in
1925 to none in 1928. Similarly, the numbers of GA-10 and GA-11 cars
dropped from 3162 cars in 1925 to nil in 1928. These sudden reductions
are certainly not typical of natural retirements, wrecks, etc. Even
allowing for the cars that were converted to GS-3 in 1923-1926, there would
appear to be plenty of steel centre sills available in 1926-1928 for the
SM-18/A stock cars.
I wonder if there was a glut of gondolas in 1926 to justify scrapping these
cars when cars built before them were kept in service.
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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