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Phil,
Thanks for sharing that spotting feature for "Drawbar vs. No Drawbar". Now that the difference has been pointed out I can easily spot it in photos found in Al Holck's Color Pictorial, Vol. I.
Can you share the unit #, date, location and photographer of the photo you attached to your explanation?
Thanks, Dave Sarther Tucson, AZ
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From: Philip Weibler pawnbaw@sbcglobal.net [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Mar 19, 2015 11:30 am Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re:Passenger F3s [1 Attachment]
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Hello Bill, Hol, and All -
The easy way to spot 'drawbars-or-couplers': if the end has a coupler it will have the standard double stirrup step (just like below
the cab door) and a pair of vertical grab irons on the side above it. If the unit has a drawbar on the end there will be no stirrup,
no grabirons. Compare this FT shot with Hol's photos. PAW
Hol,
Thanks for sharing the photos of the passenger F's in service in their original colors, particularly pulling the CZ. Seeing them brings up a question that I have never seen accurately answered. Were those three CZ F3 consists coupled with drawbars between each unit or did they have couplers? Along the same lines, were the four unit FTs coupled with drawbars between each unit or were there couplers between the two B units? What other Q F unit consists had drawbars? Finally, did the Q convert some units to couplers in later years. I don't recall seeing any definitive discussion about drawbars in the old F unit Bulletin.
Bill Barber
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