RE: [CBQ] Re:Passenger F3s

["Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

Pete:
 
Don't have any specifics as to exactly when the units were repainted into freight colors.  It has always been presumed that the boilers were removed at the same time the units were regeared in 1955, but that may not have been the case.  It doesn't seem likely the boilers would have been removed when the units were repainted, however -- two very different tasks.  And since the troop train was run in the middle of summer, steam would not have been required, as the GIs could easily have gone without hot water.  So your guess is as good as mine, though I'm inclined to think the summer was such a busy one with the huge wheat movement that the company would not have pulled the units out of service just to repaint them.
 
Hol
 

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To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:06:20 -0400
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re:Passenger F3s

 

Hol:  

While we're on the subject can you tell me "with certainty" what colors the 9962C would have carried on August  11, 1956???  Passenger or freight livery.

Reason being:  I was called for a "Soldier Train  11:00 pm on duty at the depot....waycar and work clothes"...running as 1st 43..Lincoln-Ravenna.  Power was the 9962C in the lead.  

I had an "interesting experience" before we left Lincoln, which I'll relate here later or perhaps at the "Railroaders Panel" at the North Platte meet this fall.  I have no memory.....nor did I have interest on what color any locomotive was painted at that time....I was a railroader and was getting paid.....

However, just for "grins and giggles" and story purposes it would be nice to know whether she was passenger or freight power.

Thanks

Pete

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From: William Barber clipperw@gmail.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CB&Q Group <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 19, 2015 9:18 am
Subject: [CBQ] Re:Passenger F3s

 

Hol,

Thanks for sharing the photos of the passenger F's in service in their original colors, particularly pulling the CZ. Seeing them brings up a question that I have never seen accurately answered. Were those three CZ F3 consists coupled with drawbars between each unit or did they have couplers? Along the same lines, were the four unit FTs coupled with drawbars between each unit or were there couplers between the two B units?  What other Q F unit consists had drawbars? Finally, did the Q convert some units to couplers in later years. I don't recall seeing any definitive discussion about drawbars in the old F unit Bulletin.

Bill Barber

Gravois Mills, MO

On Mar 19, 2015, at 3:03 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Passenger F3s

Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Hol Wagner" fhw632

I was just sorting through some images after scanning a black-and-white view of 9961-C at Aurora that I didn't recall seeing before, and as I found several views of the Q's passenger F3s in the silver passenger paint scheme that I've always liked on those units, so I thought I'd post a few shots of them in passenger service, or at least passenger colors. The Dick Rumbolz photo of the 9961 set in freight service at Lincoln during the summer of 1956 was taken during a period when a bumper wheat crop had so increased traffic on the Q that a large number of steam locomotives that had been sitting idle were put back in service to handle the business and O-5s could be seen for one last time in freight service on the mainline between Lincoln and Chicago. By fall the rush was over and the steam power was put back in storage, most of it never to run again. The passenger F3s had been regeared for freight service in 1955 but for some reason unknown today were not repainted into freight colors at that time, so now, a year later, one set was hard at work out of Lincoln during a very busy summer.

Hol  

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