[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner included below]
I should have checked the Corbin negative collection before saying anything! Because when I finally did, I found that Corbin had an original negative of the shot of 1506 -- which he did not take, but which he received from one of the many people with whom he traded negatives and prints. The view was taken at St. Joseph, Mo., on Aug. 11, 1932, but the photographer remains unidentified. Attached are the three views I have of the 1525 at Omaha, one taken the day it was turned out (as I understand it, at Plattsmouth in the summer of 1930), another in service at Omaha in the early 1930s, and a third as it passed through Chariton, Iowa, on Jan. 18, 1933, on the way east to Eola for scrapping. It certainly didn't last long all dolled up! Hol
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 21:29:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [CBQ] Can Anyone ID This Image [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from LZadnichek@aol.com included below]
March 8, 2015
Pete and Hol - Having reviewed both your Emails, the No. 1506 image might
well have been taken in Kansas City. I've attached an image taken in 1931 of
Class S-3 No. 2955 adjacent to what I believe is the Kansas City Terminal
roundhouse. As I recall, the roundhouse was located in the "Flats" area between
the Missouri River and the downtown on high ground. Further, as I understand,
the KC Terminal was where Q and other railroads' passenger steam locomotives
were serviced between runs. If you note the roundhouse smoke jacks, they look to
be the same in both images. I agree with Hol that such a "fancy"
switcher would've been assigned to Kansas City and not St. Joseph. However, at
that time, St. Joseph was a Division Point and the roundhouse there
had a back shop. I would speculate that No. 1525 was "beautified" at the
St. Joseph roundhouse and then transferred to Kansas City to switch the Q's
share of the Union Station. What the large building is in the background of the
No. 1506 image I still have no idea. But, Pete's mention of Quaker Oaks in St.
Joseph brought back some memories of cab rides as a child on one of the Q's
Baldwin diesel switchers that switched the mill interchange. Dad was train
master in St. Joseph in the early 1950s. I can also remember a cab ride on
a steam switcher there where I got to toss lumps of coal into the
firebox while the fireman remarked, somewhat to my dad's ire, how it was
"hot as HELL in there." The things you remember some 60 years
later..... Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 3/7/2015 12:02:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Louis & Hol
When I first looked at this one I immediately thought of St. Joe....that
looks like the Quaker Oats building in the background, but I'm not sure of the
direction the camera is pointing...The St. Joe Roundhouse opened to the south
and Quaker Oats is to the east. The distance would be about
right, but if the camera is looking west then the large building in the
background is to the west which would make it NOT St. Joe.
If it's KC that might be the KCPL light building, which would be north of
the Union Station..If it's a roundhouse in KC it would have to be the KCT's
and that might make it in the right direction.
Ain't this stuff fun to think about
Pete
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Louis: This one came as a surprise to me , too,
when I saw it on eBay. I was aware of the 1525 similarly dolled up for
use as the Omaha depot switcher, but this one was a shocker. Checking
assignment sheets, it was always assigned to the St. Joe Division and thus
would have been either the St. Joe or Kansas City depot switcher. And
considering the generally lower class of the passenger trains that passed
through St. Joe, my money would be on Kansas City. Such switchers
were used where there was direct competition in the same facility (or, as in
the case of Omaha, directly adjacent and plainly visible). UP, of
course, had a similarly outfitted switcher at Omaha. And there was, for
a time, a dolled up G-10 assigned to depot duties at Denver, while UP also had
a fancy 0-6-0 here. Hol
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 6 Mar
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[Attachment(s) from LZadnichek@aol.com included below]
March 6,
2015
Group - In the attached image, note how Class G-3 No. 1506 has
been all "dolled-up" with polished cylinder head covers, polished rods,
polished or painted trim and gloss paint job. Could this have been for
use as a passenger station switch engine? What a beautiful locomotive! Can
anyone identify the large building in the background or brick roundhouse
so the location can be known. This image is undated, but the Corbin book
records Havelock-built No. 1506 as having been retired in October
1934. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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