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From: "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 21:29:25 -0400
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March 8, 2015
 
Pete and Hol - Having reviewed both your Emails, the No. 1506 image might well have been taken in Kansas City. I've attached an image taken in 1931 of Class S-3 No. 2955 adjacent to what I believe is the Kansas City Terminal roundhouse. As I recall, the roundhouse was located in the "Flats" area between the Missouri River and the downtown on high ground. Further, as I understand, the KC Terminal was where Q and other railroads' passenger steam locomotives were serviced between runs. If you note the roundhouse smoke jacks, they look to be the same in both images. I agree with Hol that such a "fancy" switcher would've been assigned to Kansas City and not St. Joseph. However, at that time, St. Joseph was a Division Point and the roundhouse there had a back shop. I would speculate that No. 1525 was "beautified" at the St. Joseph roundhouse and then transferred to Kansas City to switch the Q's share of the Union Station. What the large building is in the background of the No. 1506 image I still have no idea. But, Pete's mention of Quaker Oaks in St. Joseph brought back some memories of cab rides as a child on one of the Q's Baldwin diesel switchers that switched the mill interchange. Dad was train master in St. Joseph in the early 1950s. I can also remember a cab ride on a steam switcher there where I got to toss lumps of coal into the firebox while the fireman remarked, somewhat to my dad's ire, how it was "hot as HELL in there." The things you remember some 60 years later..... Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL       
 
In a message dated 3/7/2015 12:02:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


Louis & Hol

When I first looked at this one I immediately thought of St. Joe....that looks like the Quaker Oats building in the background, but I'm not sure of the direction the camera is pointing...The St. Joe Roundhouse opened to the south and Quaker Oats is to the east.    The distance would be about right, but if the camera is looking west then the large building in the background is to the west which would make it NOT St. Joe.

If it's KC that might be the KCPL light building, which would be north of the Union Station..If it's a roundhouse in KC it would have to be the KCT's and that might make it in the right direction.

Ain't this stuff fun to think about

Pete


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From: Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
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Louis:
 
This one came as a surprise to me , too, when I saw it on eBay.  I was aware of the 1525 similarly dolled up for use as the Omaha depot switcher, but this one was a shocker.  Checking assignment sheets, it was always assigned to the St. Joe Division and thus would have been either the St. Joe or Kansas City depot switcher.  And considering the generally lower class of the passenger trains that passed through St. Joe, my money would be on Kansas City.  Such switchers were used where there was direct competition in the same facility (or, as in the case of Omaha, directly adjacent and plainly visible).  UP, of course, had a similarly outfitted switcher at Omaha.  And there was, for a time, a dolled up G-10 assigned to depot duties at Denver, while UP also had a fancy 0-6-0 here.
 
Hol
 

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Subject: [CBQ] Can Anyone ID This Image [1 Attachment]

 
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March 6, 2015
Group - In the attached image, note how Class G-3 No. 1506 has been all "dolled-up" with polished cylinder head covers, polished rods, polished or painted trim and gloss paint job. Could this have been for use as a passenger station switch engine? What a beautiful locomotive! Can anyone identify the large building in the background or brick roundhouse so the location can be known. This image is undated, but the Corbin book records Havelock-built No. 1506 as having been retired in October 1934. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL



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