Re: [CBQ] Re: Shop Drawings/Erection Drawings

["Noel georgecrawfordsr@comcast.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

Bill,
 If you follow up on Dale's advice please let me know the cost. If it is reasonable I will pay for the process.
Noel

On 8/4/2014 8:13 AM, Dale Grice dfgrice@gmail.com [CBQ] wrote:

 

Regarding using Kinko's, etc.

I have found that when scanning older material these newer scanners are much more automated and you will lose a lot of information when scanning in black and white mode. This is the cheaper option. However if you use color or if they have a 256 step grey scale, you will capture everything. In many cases information is faded or did not transfer well from an original. Not to mention that in a lot of cases, the help has no idea,  or doesn't want to be bothered with it.

I find blueprint shops have the proper equipment and expertise. I have scanned a lot of bedroll documents using my blueprint shop at a competitive price. My minimum standards are 300 dpi (probably overkill) and 256 grey scale.

Dale Grice

On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Noel georgecrawfordsr@comcast.net [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Bill,
  You hang on to those drawings. They are priceless. Sadly so much has been lost over the years.  If you are near a college or university, perhaps they can help you in copying them. Declare the archival material which is no longer copyrighted if need be. You could also write the BNSF engineering and legal department asking what is proper and etc.
Be careful because legal departments are goofy. They may want them back. I would use a PO box and ghost name when inquiring. Dealt with a lot of that while I was practicing Pharmacy. Now retired from that crazy game.
  I don't have any idea how you could transmit copies to me at this time, but will check around.
Noel

On 8/3/2014 3:30 PM, William Barber clipperw@gmail.com [CBQ] wrote:

 

Noel,

I have full size copies of the erection drawings for the Q S4s and M4s that my dad obtained from the Mechanical Department in the mid 1950s. They are quite large (30 to 40 inches wide by 8 or so feet long) and the original from which the S4 was copied, was not in great shape at the time, but it is certainly legible. I have loaned the M4 drawings out once to Sunset 3Rd Rail and they returned the drawings after use. I am reluctant to loan them out for fear of loss and I do not know where I can get them copied. Some companies that do copy work will not copy documents such as these without authorization from the original owners or creators. I don't have such authority. I do have at least one transmittal letter from a young mechanical engineer named Robert E. Taylor, but I don't recall that it gives any authority for reproduction. 

If you have any ideas of how I might transmit a copy to you, I would certainly be will to try. With some set up, it might be possible to digitally photograph them in sections and stitch them together afterwards. Unfortunately, Dad did not requests drawings for the O-5 or any other Q steam power. As for a live steam or electric version of either locomotive in 1:32 scale, I would certainly be interested, but I suspect the cost would be beyond my means! Like others, the Q hudsons were my all time favorite locomotives. 

Bill Barber

Gravois Mills, MO

 

On Aug 3, 2014, at 2:48 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Shop Drawings/Erection Drawings

Sat Aug 2, 2014 10:43 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Noel" cbqsteam

Hello All,
I have been searching with no luck for any good shop or erection 
drawings for CB&Q 05a and S4 locomotives. I have the drawing of the O5 
from Corbin's book but it is limited for building a 1:32 live version.
BTW would there be any interest in a live steam version also electric 
version of either locomotive in 1:32? PM me at 
georgecrawfordsr@comcast.net if you are.
George N. Crawford aka Noel

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