Re: [CBQ] Barriger Photos Photo IDs,,,,CGW at St. Joe MO

[Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com]

Bill...OK let's "take it from the top"...as they say in the music business.


CGW trains entered the Q at the upper far right..just near the No. 7.


Running south on the Q NB track following around the east side of the UD 
continuing generally southbound to a point about where (4) arrow is...that set 
of tracks pointed to by (8) is the Middle Yard.  CGW trains got off at "the 
Middle Yard Connection about where (9) is...traveled around to the left (east) 
and got on the ATSF...as I described


Maps make it so much better and easier to desrcribe.


Pete










-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hirt <whirt@sbcglobal.net>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 8, 2014 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Barriger Photos Photo IDs,,,,CGW at St. Joe MO [1 Attachment]


 
  
    
                  
        Pete,
    
    Maybe this overall track diagram of St Joe will help. I received    this 
copy from a friend who works for UP.
    
    Bill Hirt
    
    
    
    
On 3/8/2014 8:52 PM,      Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com wrote:
    
    
                  Bob...Now you've called        me on it...I'll have to 
produce...To the best of my memory        here's how it went.        

        
        
Coming in from a general  NE to SW direction CGW crossed           St Joe 
Avenue. just south of where the old Goetz Brewery was          
located...Continued in that general direction meeting the          CB&Q running 
almost due N-S about 4th and FRancis St..           The Q was double track 
there with strictly directional          running.  There was a connection 
switch to the Q Northbound          main and directly south of that was a 
crossover from NB to SB          tracks...According to special instructions in 
the TT these          swiiches were controlled by the dispatcher.  
        

        
        
Southward CGW trains moved against current of tranffic on          the NB Q 
track around the north and east side of St. Joe US          to, what was known 
as the Middle Yard connection...They then          moved down the east side of 
the middle yard to another          connection connection onto what was then 
the Hannibal Division          main track for a short distance eastward to a 
connection to          the ATSF..Henrietta, MO-St. Joe branch ...over this line 
for 5          or so miles to Bee Creek (BC) Junction connection to CGW's own   
       track...
        

        
        
Then it was over the CGW crossing the Q at Beverly...then          across the 
river to Leavenworth, KS and onto the MOP into KC          MO.
        

        
        
CGW is the only railroad I can think of who had more          convoluted 
routings than the the RI.
        

        
        
I'll take questions if anyone has any...If I know the          answer I'll tell 
you...If I don't I'll  make one up.
        

        
            
Pete
          
          
                
-----Original            Message-----
            From: RWA325 <RWA325@aol.com>
            To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Sat, Mar 8, 2014 8:14 pm
            Subject: Re: [CBQ] Barriger Photos Photo IDs
            
            
              
                                 
                  
                    
                      
                                                
                      
Pete,
                                              
 
                        
I'm sure I am not the only one who would be                          interested.
                        
 
                        
Bob Arthur
                        
 
                        
 
                        
                          
In a message dated 3/8/2014 8:30:06 P.M.                            Eastern 
Standard Time, Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com                            writes:
                          
                               
                                
Bill...If you or anyone                                    else is interested I 
will attempt to                                    describe how it was at St. 
Joe. 
                                

                                  
                                                                  
Pete
                                    
                                    
                                    
-----Original                                      Message-----
                                      From: Bill Hirt <whirt@sbcglobal.net>
                                      To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
                                      Sent: Sat, Mar 8, 2014 5:43 pm
                                      Subject: Re: [CBQ] Barriger Photos        
                              Photo IDs
                                      
                                      
                                        
                                           
                                            
                                              
                                                
Pete,
                                                  
                                                  I have a friend that          
                                        is a now retired                        
                          engineer from UP that                                 
                 ran on the old CGW                                             
     line through St Joe.                                                  He 
said it was always                                                  a challenge 
to get                                                  through there.
                                                  
                                                  Bill Hirt