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Re: [CBQ] Signals on the Q

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From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:09:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Nelson
According to the Track Chart CTC was installed Wood Tower thru Illinois Jct in 1916  Wood Tower controlled the K line interlocking at the time  But west of the depot would have been ABS with yard limits
Ill Jct to Connett CTC installed 1951
all taken over by CTC in the Op Office in depot in 1958
The semaphore for the crossings may have been used without movement and or rod controlled from the crossing which was the way BX crossing (CNW at Shabbona) was controlled with the crossing train first removing the derail then pulling the signal to notify the Eng it was ok to proceed.
A timetable for the era you want would tell you the train control method used.
I salvaged pieces of the BN CTC machine after it was moved to Galesburg and rebuilt there one shift I was working it.
retired Ottumwa Div. Dispatcher 1974(extra board) bumped onto job to move to Galesburg so first assigned in GT 30 Nov. 1984 and worked if most till July 91 (the change from train order to track warrant)
Steve in SC



From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:31 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Signals on the Q

 
What signal system did CB&Q use in Burlington between the Mississippi River bridge and the West Burlington hill in 1953? Wood tower was still operational then. I have one picture from the late 1940s showing a three target block signal in Burlington. I think the main was controlled by timetable and train order then, so how were train order signals given? Were the target signals in Burlington controlled by track detectors or by Wood tower?
 
I’ve heard that the Washington branch line was dark, but I have several photos of the Washington branch line taken in the BN era that show upper quadrant semaphores with three position lenses, and a single target signal at the Rock Island grade crossing near Havre, and near the M&StL crossing and interchange near Winfield. The M&StL crossing was gate protected, with primacy accorded to the M&StL, so I don’t know why there would be a target block signal there. I’ve heard that the Q used lower quadrant train order signals, but I haven’t found any pictures circa 1950 to determine if that’s true by that date. I don’t know when the upper quadrant semaphores were installed on the Washington branch line.
 
I’d like to hear from anyone with firsthand knowledge of the signaling systems used in Burlington and on the Washington, IA branch line circa 1950 so I can design the signal system on my layout.
 
Nelson Moyer




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