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Rich,
I know that in 1951, the Nebraska Zephyr used only one E unit for the the seven car articulated Nebraska Zephyr, plus an Economy baggage car - eight cars.
Rich G.
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Forst" <rforst@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx wrote: > > The Burlington had a formula for power to cars for the passenger trains. I > believe it was one E Unit for every 5 cars. (It might have been six on > certain runs) Headend cars, shorter jeep baggages, were counted differently > (usually on 2nd and 3rd #1 and #10 during the Christmas rush. As a rule the > Burlington also followed the EMD max of 4 E Units on a train, becasue of MU > and braking responses. There are rare occasions where you do see 5 units on > trains and on the C&S when they burned up the E 5's in freight service they > ran long strings of the E5's. > > It was Lou Menk, new president of the Q (x- Frisco) in 1965 that started the > Elephant style of running E Units, incase the lead unit failed, the crews > could swap units. However, it also did what Lou wanted and increased > passenger train terminal costs by always turning all locomotives at the > terminal. When he arrived, he work the hardest at killing passenger service > on the Q. He also was able to run some of the surburban runs with units > coming off mainline runs. They were really dirty and obviously not serviced > yet. This increased the mainline passenger costs to justify getting out of > that business. And we all know ke killed the steam excursions on the Q. > > Rich Forst > rforst@... > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry M Mikkelson <LarryMMikkelson@...> > To: BRHSlist@onelist.com <BRHSlist@onelist.com>; > clive.turner@... <clive.turner@...> > Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 8:34 PM > Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: Burlington E's > > > >From: Larry M Mikkelson <LarryMMikkelson@...> > > > >Clive, > > > >I believe the reason for 3 E's on the CZ or DZ was the length of those > >trains, and 3 units provided the correct amount of power. As to running > >all units nose forward, that was the practice in the late 60's, but during > >the 50's I remember seeing Burlington E's on the Empire Builder back to > >back. I heard that if all units ran nose forward, if the lead unit had a > >collision or became disabled, it could be removed and the next unit would > >be pointed in the right direction to continue the trip. > > > >The only E5's I have seen in HO were brass models from Hallmark, Oriental > >Limitied and Challenger Imports. > > > > > > > >At 07:55 AM 1/26/99 -0000, you wrote: > >>From: Turner Clive Civ 100SUPS/LGSAM <clive.turner@...> > >> > >>From "Clive Turner'' In England < clive.turner@... > > >> > >>Dave, > >>My Father has just built me a Custom made 5 shelf display case to show off > >>my Locomotives, at the moment i have an ABA set of Alco PA's of the New > York > >>Central but of Course my Burlington! will take pride of place at the top, > my > >>Question is and please forgive me I'm still new to railroading but for > what > >>purpose did E8's and E9's run sets of 3 engines nose to tail ? i would > like > >>to display my Burlington's in that way. > >>Finally is there any Company out there that makes an E5 in HO Scale with > >>good detail?. > >>Thank you > >>Clive of England > >> > >>Mr C A.Turner > >>Facilities Manager > >>100th Supply Squadron > >>MOD CIV (USAFE) > >>Telephone Ext 2568 > >> > >>> ---------- > >>> From: Dave Lotz[SMTP:Dave_Lotz@...] > >>> Reply To: BRHSlist@onelist.com > >>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 11:27 PM > >>> To: BRHSlist@onelist.com > >>> Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: Burlington Baggage Cars (again) > >>> > >>> From: "Dave Lotz" <Dave_Lotz@...> > >>> > >>> Rumor has it that American Model Builders may be coming out with the > >>> Havelock Baggage sometime this year in a Laserkit. > >>> > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > >>> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > >>> select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > >>> > >> > >>---------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > >>to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > >>select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > >> > >Larry M. Mikkelson > >larrymmikkelson@... > > > >---------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > >to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and > >select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > __._,_.___
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