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Re: [CBQ] Arbitraries was Downers Grove Wreck

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One more interesting perspective. I once briefly fired for the Chicago Division 
#1 engineer (can't remember the name - an old Irish guy) at 14th st. We were 
paid a lot of engine changes every day. Interesting because on most days we 
never got off the switch engine. I guess it was a combination of 
nothing-interferes-with-the-run-like-clockwork-suburban-service and an 
ultra-high seniority switch crew. Funny how when I was on my own I never seemed 
to receive such prompt attentiveness to arbitraries :)

Doug

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Subject: [CBQ] Arbitraries was Downers Grove Wreck

  





This will support Doug and Pete's comments about arbitraries being no walk in 
the park. 
  
Since childhood I have been a student of history; so when I came into 
possession of a copy of the "schedule" dated 5/1/28 with rates effective 
12/1/52 and understood that its' terms were still in effect and the vast amount 
of history inside those covers; I read the thing cover to cover with pen in 
hand for future reference. 
  
Rule 44 on page 45 talks about trainman being allowed the extra mileage "when 
an engine is cut off a train to run for coal or water."  Here is what I wrote 
to the list back on 5/2/12: 
  

"You are correct about needing water in a diesel. One trip eastbound in the C&I 
pool the warning bells in the lead unit started ringing so we stopped between 
the switches at Carter. The units cooling system was almost dry. We cut the 
power off the train and ran to Oregon depot and pulled the hose out of depot, 
filing the cooling system, after which we returned to the train and continued 
east. 
  
I turned in a timeslip for the miles Carter to Oregon and return under the 
schedule rule "running for water" and it was turned down by the timekeepers 
office, stating that if legitimate, the Condr would have turned in the 
timeslip. I dutifully quoted page, chapter and verse out of the schedule and 
the fact that Condr and rear man stayed at Carter on the waycar. A couple pay 
periods later I received the overdue mileage. This may have been the start of 
my interest in being a local chairman." 
  
At some point in the future, I believe, there will be an article in the BRHS 
Bulletin dealing with a long gone  and almost forgotten service once routine on 
North American RRs. The whole impetus to write the article came from reading 
the schedule back in the 70s and stumbling on the rule related to the service 
and saying to myself "really" ! Then I gained access to the Aurora BRT lodge 
claim files and well........you'll get to read about it yourselves. 
  
Leo Phillipp 
  
  
This will support Doug and Pete's comments about arbitraries being no walk in 
the park. 
  
Since childhood I have been a student of history; so when I came into 
possession of a copy of the "schedule" dated 5/1/28 with rates effective 
12/1/52 and understood that its' terms were still in effect and the vast amount 
of history inside those covers; I read the thing cover to cover with pen in 
hand for future reference. 
  
Rule 44 on page 45 talks about trainman being allowed the extra mileage "when 
an engine is cut off a train to run for coal or water."  Here is what I wrote 
to the list back on 5/2/12: 
  

"You are correct about needing water in a diesel. One trip eastbound in the C&I 
pool the warning bells in the lead unit started ringing so we stopped between 
the switches at Carter. The units cooling system was almost dry. We cut the 
power off the train and ran to Oregon depot and pulled the hose out of depot, 
filing the cooling system, after which we returned to the train and continued 
east. 
  
I turned in a timeslip for the miles Carter to Oregon and return under the 
schedule rule "running for water" and it was turned down by the timekeepers 
office, stating that if legitimate, the Condr would have turned in the 
timeslip. I dutifully quoted page, chapter and verse out of the schedule and 
the fact that Condr and rear man stayed at Carter on the waycar. A couple pay 
periods later I received the overdue mileage. This may have been the start of 
my interest in being a local chairman." 
  
At some point in the future, I believe, there will be an article in the BRHS 
Bulletin dealing with a long gone  and almost forgotten service once routine on 
North American RRs. The whole impetus to write the article came from reading 
the schedule back in the 70s and stumbling on the rule related to the service 
and saying to myself "really" ! Then I gained access to the Aurora BRT lodge 
claim files and well........you'll get to read about it yourselves. 
  
Leo Phillipp 
  
  





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