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Re: [CBQ] Re: Montgomery, IL Train Wreck of 1943

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Montgomery, IL Train Wreck of 1943
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:20:24 -0500 (EST)
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John
 
See my later post...I answered my own question..It was the baggage man and the engineer on the 9850 who were killed.
 
This incident was one of several which brought the Post Office department and the ICC down on the railroads for continuing to use gasoline powered motorcars.  The Q had several..One at Donnelly, IA about 1931 and another between AShland, NE and Sioux City IA...and maybe some others.
 
I think the M&St.L continued to use gasoline cars until the end of passenger service, but I could be wrong on that one..
 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Montgomery, IL Train Wreck of 1943

 
Do you mean the motorman or baggageman on 9850? The fireman on work extra 4962 was not killed.
--- On Sun, 1/13/13, Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com> wrote:

From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Montgomery, IL Train Wreck of 1943
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 13, 2013, 2:10 PM

 
Here's another little..."sidebar" to the story...According to Chuck "Spinner and Jim Christen's book..."Tragedy at the Loomis St. Crossing...
 
"Curtis H. Crayton would be the only fatality from the Exposition Flyer!  Crayton's decision to jump from the cab could have been triggered subconsciously by the fact that only three years before his borther-in-law died in a train wreck after being trapped by flames in his engine cab"
 
Maybe one of you guys knows...Was Crayton's BIL the fireman on the Ola???...I'm supposing this on the assumption that he and Crayton would have been relatively of the same age and seniority which, in my assumption would mean that he was not the "Motorman" on the Motor Car or the engineer on the 0la.
 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Rethwisch <qrailroadman@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:29 am
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Montgomery, IL Train Wreck of 1943

 
Here's some anecdotal information that relates to the head-on collision of the O1a and the motorcar on the Fox River branch in 1943.
 
The details of the cause and effect of the human errors (there were several)  are covered in several publications so I'll not include them here.
 
Mom, Dad and I were in a grocery store in Oswego on the day of the collision.  As we were paying our bill the owner/clerk of the store (Denny's Grocery) abruptly ended a conversation with my Dad and RAN out of the store without finishing the conversation.  He was a member of the Oswego Volunteer Fire Dept. and had been called to an emergency.  Not one to "chase" emergency vehicles Dad later decided to drive north on IL. 25, on the east side of the Fox River, to see what caused the fire trucks to be dispatched.  Approaching the current location of Boulder Hill, and south of the RR bridge over Rt. 25 and the river, we saw the trucks and smoke and fire.  We stopped alongside the highway and watched as Firemen and rescue personnel dealt with situation before us.  It became clear that a steam locomotive had buried itself in th e front of the motorcar and had caused great damage to the car.  As I found out much later this was a waycar light movement to Yeagan Pit to pick up a gravel train.
 
Two of the details connected to the collision that have always remained with me seem to have portended certain, future events that very much impacted me.  The first deals with the mailing of a letter at the Oswego Post Office.  Mom had mailed a letter to her brother, stationed in France, the previous day.  The letter never made it and, fourteen months later, her Brother was killed on Omaha beach.  Years later a strange envelope was received address to Mom.  It was a special mailing by the Postal Service which contained the badly burned remains of that letter.  Not ALL of the mail had been reduced to ashes in the wreck.  The second important item was that, again, years later, I worked with an Engineer named Robert Lewis (Red) Parker.  He and I formed a close bond and were friends for years.  As it turned out he was the Fireman on that O1a engine at Montgomery.  In 1966 (?), once again, on the Fox River branch and working as an Engineer/Pilot, Red Parker was killed in the head-on collision of the Rock Island detour and the Q passenger train at Montgomery.
 
These might be small, possibly insignificant details to most people but, to someone so closely tied to them, they are VERY significant.  Some ancillary details of this event were provided to me by my Parents in order that I could corroborate my recollections of the events with those of someone a bit senior to me.  I was, after all, 3 years and one month old at the time of the collision.
 
Karl


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