I suspect it was either due to the presence of the buffet -
or...dining stops. I don't have a 1899 PTT or ET - or even official
guide - but, tho diners surely existed, there were also, still, a large
number of eating houses.
Five dining cars were built for the CB&Q in 1901. Perhaps
they found the need for them by that time? Prior to that
time, Pullman hadn't built any diners for the Q - not to say Aurora or
AC&F didn't build them, haven't really looked.
It is interesting that a train with a composite that included a baggage
compartment needed a full baggage. It would seem to me that
the "baggage" was an MBE, the combined space would be the same
for a baggage car, but ti would allow the division of express from
baggage or company express from Adams.
At 12:17 PM 12/28/2012, you wrote:
Also interesting is the fact
that no dining car service is mentioned, though it was surely a part of
the train.
Hol
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: rgz17@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:46:52 -0600
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Chicago-Denver
Rupert - in the piece Hol sent out this is included:
"Each train consists of a composite car, a Pullman and two chair
cars, in addition to a baggage car."
Now, it seems like an afterthought, even in the news story. I
wonder if this wasn't a full baggage, but rather a MBE - there were
"postal cars" built to Lot 2372 Plan 854 - I'll have to see if
a Floor Plan for 854 is extant.
There is no record (that I have found) that provides the numbers of the
postal cars, the chair or coaches - or the number of postal cars
built. The built date is suspicious given the newspaper
description.
At 10:04 PM 12/27/2012, you wrote:
- Bob
- Thanks for this extra information. There was no reference in either
magazine piece to a baggage car being supplied by Pullman with the other
equipment.
- Rupert
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-
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Bob Webber
- To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
- Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 8:36 AM
- Subject: RE: [CBQ] Chicago-Denver
- I thought these sounded familiar, Rupert & I discussed these a
year and a half ago.
- Note that, while 4 sets were described, 5 comp[osite cars are
listed:
- 5 Composite Baggage, Buffet, Smoking:
- COLORADO, ILLINOIS, IOWA, MISSOURI, NEBRASKA built
1899 Lot 2410 Plan1400
- The 4 Pullman Sleepers:
- CHICAGO, BURLINGTON & QUINCY R.R. 4 Sleeper - 12 Section, 1
Drawing Room - G/S -
- DIAMOND, EMERALD, RUBY, SAPHIRE built
1899 Lot 2390 Plan 1318-C.
- There were 4 passenger day coaches & 8 passenger chair cars built
at this same period -
- CHICAGO, BURLINGTON & QUINCY R.R. 8 Chair Cars - No. ????
built 1899 Lot 2460 Plan 1435-D
- CHICAGO, BURLINGTON & QUINCY R.R. 4 Passenger Day Coaches -
No. ???? Built 1899 Lot 2461 Plan 1436-B
- Assume the baggage cars were existing or built by AC&F or
other.
Bob Webber
Bob Webber
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