Leo,
I see the reference to PU in the '62 ETT--the eyes skipped right over it.
Thanks.
One other question about your OS sheets--do they indicate the power on the
Oregon Turn? A late photo in Spoor's Vol. 2 shows a Geep, but I wonder whether
the TR2s ever held this assignment prior to the Geeps.
Bob Herrick
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, qutlx1@... wrote:
>
> Bob
>
> I never noticed the change between 81/83 before so I went into my full ETT
> collection and while its certainly not complete with every year here is what
> I found. From at least 1934 until 1954 # 83 is the Rockford and Savanna mdse
> with 81 as the St Paul mdse. as you noted starting in '55 they change duties
> and 81 is noted as the Rockford & Savanna mdse w/f until the late 60s when
> these references are deleted from the ETT. The old saying you learn something
> everyday is true.
>
> Also starting in 1962 there is a notation of the P/U leaving SV at 12:01am
>
> The o.s sheets only have one reference to 81 on 10/31/51 arriving at 11:45pm
> with engine #159. There is also only one sighting of the p/u at 10:59am on
> 12/20/51 w/unit #107.
>
>
> Finally as you noted I reverted back to using station call letters to save
> key strokes. HY was the operator call at Cicero. I thought these were shown
> in the ETTs but find that isn't the case.
>
> Where did I use to see them listed ?
>
> Leo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:47 PM, herrick@... wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Leo,
> >
> > The ETT I have is dated January 31, 1954 and it lists (as information only)
> > three west-bound numbered freights and two east-bound. At that time 83 was
> > the daily except Saturday Rockford and Savanna way freight and 81 was
> > listed as a daily St. Paul mdse. so the railroad made some changes between
> > this ETT and the one you have. The next ETT I have is dated October 28,
> > 1962 and it conforms to yours, but calls 81 the daily except Saturday
> > Rockford and Savanna way freight. RR was consistent in describing 83 as
> > doing no local work east of Rochelle, but setting out and picking up at
> > Rochelle and Oregon.
> >
> > Do your OS sheets identify the power on 81? Also, could you explain what HY
> > was code for?
> >
> > Thanks, Leo, for all of this information.
> >
> > Bob Herrick
> >
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, qutlx1@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I referenced a set of West Eola tower OS sheets that Russ Stroud sent me
> > > several years back( I hope the BRHS members will see these in detail in a
> > > future bulletin) as part of another subject. Here is info from them on
> > > #83:
> > >
> > > 6/19/51 arr 8:52PM dept 10:59PM w/#133
> > > 12/20/51 arr 10:40PM dept 12:01 AM w/#169
> > > 10/30/51 arr 10:08PM dept 11:38PM w #168
> > >
> > > I should also point out that #83,due out of HY at 6:40PM, is shown in ETT
> > > #43 of 4/24/55 as the St Paul mdse train. I believe the train that you're
> > > looking for and that did all the intermediate work is #81 which operated
> > > about 4 hours behind #83 due out of HY at 10:00PM and not due into SV
> > > until
> > > 4:00AM.
> > >
> > > The pick up operated as an extra and I can find no ETT reference to it in
> > >
> > > the carded trains or the footnotes. From all the stories I recall being
> > > told
> > > it operated each nite and was pretty much an all nighter(16 hours).
> > >
> > > As to cars movements I can only share what I saw in the 70s. Sand went
> > > mostly east to heavy industry,foundry,and a bit unusual a lot of it went
> > > to
> > > various companies like Proctor and Gamble,etc. A few cars went west.
> > > There
> > > would be mty newsprint cars going both east and west. I cant answer the
> > > part
> > > about Carnation other than to say I have been told there were inbound
> > > loads
> > > of cans from a Carnation can plant near Milwaukee. Also before the advent
> > > of the insulated boxcars (RBLs) the carnation product moved in reefers.
> > >
> > > Leo Phillipp
> > >
> >
> >
>
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