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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Oregon Part Two
From: herrick@krausonline.com
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:39:51 -0000
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Leo,

I see the reference to PU in the '62 ETT--the eyes skipped right over it. 
Thanks.

One other question about your OS sheets--do they indicate the power on the 
Oregon Turn? A late photo in Spoor's Vol. 2 shows a Geep, but I wonder whether 
the TR2s ever held this assignment prior to the Geeps.

Bob Herrick

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, qutlx1@... wrote:
>
> Bob
> 
> I never noticed the change between 81/83 before so I went into my full ETT 
> collection and while its certainly not complete with every year here is what 
> I found. From at least 1934 until 1954 # 83 is the Rockford and Savanna mdse 
> with 81 as the St Paul mdse. as you noted starting in '55 they change duties 
> and 81 is noted as the Rockford & Savanna mdse w/f until the late 60s when 
> these references are deleted from the ETT. The old saying you learn something 
> everyday is true.
> 
> Also starting in 1962 there is a notation of the P/U leaving SV at 12:01am
> 
> The o.s sheets only have one reference to 81 on 10/31/51 arriving at 11:45pm 
> with engine #159. There is also only one sighting of the p/u at 10:59am on 
> 12/20/51 w/unit #107.
> 
> 
> Finally as you noted I reverted back to using station call letters to save 
> key strokes. HY was the operator call at Cicero. I thought these were shown 
> in the ETTs but find that isn't the case.
> 
> Where did I use to see them listed ?
> 
> Leo
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:47 PM, herrick@... wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Leo,
> > 
> > The ETT I have is dated January 31, 1954 and it lists (as information only) 
> > three west-bound numbered freights and two east-bound. At that time 83 was 
> > the daily except Saturday Rockford and Savanna way freight and 81 was 
> > listed as a daily St. Paul mdse. so the railroad made some changes between 
> > this ETT and the one you have. The next ETT I have is dated October 28, 
> > 1962 and it conforms to yours, but calls 81 the daily except Saturday 
> > Rockford and Savanna way freight. RR was consistent in describing 83 as 
> > doing no local work east of Rochelle, but setting out and picking up at 
> > Rochelle and Oregon.
> > 
> > Do your OS sheets identify the power on 81? Also, could you explain what HY 
> > was code for?
> > 
> > Thanks, Leo, for all of this information.
> > 
> > Bob Herrick
> > 
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, qutlx1@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > > 
> > > I referenced a set of West Eola tower OS sheets that Russ Stroud sent me 
> > > several years back( I hope the BRHS members will see these in detail in a 
> > > future bulletin) as part of another subject. Here is info from them on 
> > > #83: 
> > > 
> > > 6/19/51 arr 8:52PM dept 10:59PM w/#133
> > > 12/20/51 arr 10:40PM dept 12:01 AM w/#169
> > > 10/30/51 arr 10:08PM dept 11:38PM w #168
> > > 
> > > I should also point out that #83,due out of HY at 6:40PM, is shown in ETT 
> > > #43 of 4/24/55 as the St Paul mdse train. I believe the train that you're 
> > > looking for and that did all the intermediate work is #81 which operated 
> > > about 4 hours behind #83 due out of HY at 10:00PM and not due into SV 
> > > until 
> > > 4:00AM.
> > > 
> > > The pick up operated as an extra and I can find no ETT reference to it in 
> > >  
> > > the carded trains or the footnotes. From all the stories I recall being 
> > > told 
> > > it operated each nite and was pretty much an all nighter(16 hours).
> > > 
> > > As to cars movements I can only share what I saw in the 70s. Sand went 
> > > mostly east to heavy industry,foundry,and a bit unusual a lot of it went 
> > > to 
> > > various companies like Proctor and Gamble,etc. A few cars went west. 
> > > There 
> > > would be mty newsprint cars going both east and west. I cant answer the 
> > > part 
> > > about Carnation other than to say I have been told there were inbound 
> > > loads 
> > > of cans from a Carnation can plant near Milwaukee. Also before the advent 
> > > of the insulated boxcars (RBLs) the carnation product moved in reefers.
> > > 
> > > Leo Phillipp
> > >
> > 
> >
>




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