Hi Nelson, 
  
1602-105 is no longer made as this was a limited run color but I believe 
there may be some bottles left at Badger, you would have to call or order some 
to find out. Also I forgot about two other CB&Q colors that I made, these 
also were only available in 4oz bottles and a limited run color. 1602-101 
CB&Q Suburban Green and 1602-102 CB&Q Suburban Tan. These colors were 
made to go with a CB&Q Suburban Commuter car kit that was made in HO, the 
kit manufacture was suppose to put our color info in with the instructions but 
that never happen and no one knew about the colors when they bought the kit, we 
have lots of this color. 
  
This limited run color line was an idea that I had some years ago, I made 
five different railroad colors but at the last minute Badger lost interest in 
the project and nothing was ever said to Walthers or hobby shops and I was stuck 
trying to sell the paint my self. Dave Lotz sold a lot of the CB&Q gray 
through his old company Q Connection and the other colors I sold my self. I 
can't remember if Dave bought all the Q gray that was left for Q connection or 
not maybe he remembers, Dave? But I can tell you that there is Suburban colors 
left! 
  
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  Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:29 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Color Match - 
  Grays for diesel hoods 
  
  
  John, 
  
  
  Is 1602-105 still being made? I have never seen it in Walthers or hobby 
  shops. 
  
  
  
  
  
    
    
    
    
    Hi Andrew, 
      
    Contacting EMD or GE is a waste of time, both companies hate model 
    railroaders and the CB&Q paint codes are available as I have them 
    all.  
      
    The info that I got was that the NS did not go through EMD or GE 
    they contacted historical societys and people like me who research 
    railroad colors. I'm sure some of these codes that the NS 
    got were Duco or Dulux which are lead base paints that are no longer 
    used or made so all these codes had to be re done into Imron paint 
    that is used today. I find it strange that the NS paint crews would as you 
    say “shoot from the hip” to paint some of these locos as Dupont and I both 
    have all of the paint codes for these railroads as well as most of the 
    historical societys.  
      
    I made all the CB&Q colors in MODELflex paint, these colors were 
    matched to my Dupont paint samples and then lighten to scale. Here is a list 
    of our paints that are available. 
    16-153 CB&Q 
    Chinese Red 
    16-154 CB&Q Gray 
    (For Red and Gray Locos) 
    16-193 CB&Q 
    Imitation Aluminum 
    16-194 CB&Q 
    Red 
    1602-105 CB&Q 
    Black Bird Gray (Limited run paint color, only available in 4oz 
    bottle) 
      
    
      
    
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      Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 
      9:34 PM 
      Subject: [CBQ] Re: Color Match - 
      Grays for diesel hoods 
      
  
      
      Wouldn’t the BRHS be able to contact EMD, as they would 
      have the records for the proper paint codes? Look at the recent NS 
      “Heritage Fleet”. The NS talked to both EMD and GE for paint codes for 
      these heritage units, the railroads that actually were customers of EMD 
      and/or GE. About ½ of the railroads the NS crews had to “shoot from the 
      hip” as some of the predecessor roads were neither EMD or GE customers. I 
      am not trying to sound “off topic”, but just making a suggestion 
      here…… 
       
       
          
      
   
 
    
    
 
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