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[CBQ] Re: Ballast Color

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Ballast Color
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--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Carroll, Ed" <ed.carroll@...> wrote:
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> I know that in the 1950s and 1960s the Fox River Branch had a combination of slag and cinders with what appeared to be more cinders from Sheridan south and more slag north. I also know that with the amount of sand and sometimes gravel along the tracks that even when the ballast was nearly gone, it was often hard to see the dirt. In the early 1960s the area from north of Dayton through Ottawa and on to Streator received a light grey to whitish rock ballast. I don't know if the rest of the branch got rock at that time, but looking over Wedron in the early 1970s there was so much sand that I could not tell if there was rock ballast and after that I was out of the area except for a few stints at Ottawa Silica and the best of a year at a machine shop.
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> From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [CBQ@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Rhonda [macon249@...]
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> It's a good subject, older photo's would lead to the use of just dirt or whatever was available. Oil and weed burners was used to control vegetation. Later about anything available seems to have some use. In today's time railroads keep loaded cars on hand and most either have or share ballast pits. Color of ballast, would depend on location and time period.
> I've seen many different kinds used, and in emergency's almost anything.
> Bill Jackson
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> On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Thomas Quimby thomas_quimby@...<mailto:thomas_quimby@...> wrote:
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> What about the history of ballast? When was ballast first used? I`ve been watching Hell on Wheels on AMC, this show takes place right after the Civil War and they show the tracks with no ballast.
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> From: Michael Matalis mmatalis@...<mailto:mmatalis@...>
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> I remember seeing slag ballast in the 60's. Even though I was still a wee tot of 10 or so I was fascinated by the bubbly texture that some pieces had.
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> Michael Matalis
> Downers Grove IL
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> On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:42 AM, William Barber wrote:
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> In the Chicago territory, the ballast in the '50s, was slag from the steel mills. When new, it was gray, but as time pasted, it took on more of a brownish color due to dust, dirt, rust and general atmospheric conditions. Photos that I have as far west as Mendota, appear to have the same ballast with approximately the same color. The color certainly varies from place to place and even in the same area. I have a photo at the Mendota coal dock, east of town with one track light gray and the is darker gray. In another photo at Zearing, two tracks are more brownish color and the third secondary track is a light gray. Both photos were shot in 1959 on the 2-10-4 doubleheader fan trip.
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> In looking over a number of photo from the '50s, the color certainly varied. I think gray for newer fresh ballast and a brownish tint for ballast that had been in service for some time and hadn't recently been cleaned. I would not make it uniform in color, even in the same area, but it should be more uniform on any one track.
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> Bill Barber
> Gravois Mills, MO
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A great source of color photos is railroadpicturearchives.net http://railfan44.rrpicturearchives.net/default.aspx 

This database is searchable by (among otherthings) locations and railroad.
 
Depending on what location you are looking for, some of the color photos in any of Spoors 4 volumes of color photos might be useful also.


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