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Re: [CBQ] Re: Ballast Color

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Check photos also as in the ice reefer era  some roads would spray oil on the sides of the rails to slow the effects of salty melt water dripping out of the cars.  The eastward tracks due to the traffic only.
And talking about dumping new ballast for years we use to have clearance problems with the Belt Railway of Chicago Bridge at Cicero but in the late '70's we ran piggyback trains right down the main from House 7 at Western Ave.  Flash forward to the mid to late '90's and all the track maintenance done with new ballast.  The key is to dump ballast and then raise the track in the tamping.  What happens to clearance??  With the modern boxcars even they would not fit under the bridge so finally the railroads got together and not only raised the bridge but also undercut it to allow better clearance. 
Steve in SC



From: Rhonda <macon249@yahoo.com>
To: "CBQ@yahoogroups.com" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, September 17, 2012 1:08:47 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Ballast Color

 

It's a good subject, older photo's would lead to the use of just dirt or whatever was available. Oil and weed burners was used to control vegetation. Later about anything available seems to have some use. In today's time railroads keep loaded cars on hand and most either have or share ballast pits. Color of ballast, would depend on location and time period.
I've seen many different kinds used, and in emergency's almost anything.
Bill Jackson

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On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Thomas Quimby <thomas_quimby@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

What about the history of ballast?  When was ballast first used? I`ve been watching Hell on Wheels on AMC, this show takes place right after the Civil War and they show the tracks with no ballast.

From: Michael Matalis <mmatalis@sprynet.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Ballast Color

 
I remember seeing slag ballast in the 60's.  Even though I was still a wee tot of 10 or so I was fascinated by the bubbly texture that some pieces had.


Thank you kindly,

Michael Matalis
Downers Grove IL

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On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:42 AM, William Barber wrote:



Brian,

In the Chicago territory, the ballast in the '50s, was slag from the steel mills. When new, it was gray, but as time pasted, it took on more of a brownish color due to dust, dirt, rust and general atmospheric conditions. Photos that I have as far west as Mendota, appear to have the same ballast with approximately the same color. The color certainly varies from place to place and even in the same area. I have a photo at the Mendota coal dock, east of town with one track light gray and the is darker gray. In another photo at Zearing, two tracks are more brownish color and the third secondary track is a light gray. Both photos were shot in 1959 on the 2-10-4 doubleheader fan trip. 

In looking over a number of photo from the '50s, the color certainly varied. I think gray for newer fresh ballast and a brownish tint for ballast that had been in service for some time and hadn't recently been cleaned. I would not make it uniform in color, even in the same area, but it should be more uniform on any one track. 

Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO

On Sep 17, 2012, at 5:32 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"bdurham260" bdurham260

What color was the Q's ballast in the mid 50's? I am thinking of their track in Illinois. Was it uniform in color or hodge podge?

Brian Durham






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