Re: [CBQ] Mel Patrick Picture 49 (was Re: CB&Q "Bulington" Business car on the end of a Northern Pacific train??)

[Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>]

This link shows that, in 1965, the Silver Fountain did not have a rear diaphragm:
http://www.jerryapp.com/arcv3/ja-r115.jpg

That leaves 3 others, unless this car obtained the rear end diaphragm with a year after this photo.


--- On Sun, 4/8/12, domelinerdude <domelinerdude@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: domelinerdude <domelinerdude@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CBQ] Mel Patrick Picture 49 (was Re: CB&Q "Bulington" Business car on the end of a Northern Pacific train??)
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 8:51 AM

 

Stephen,

Good Question. When the Diner-Parlor-Observation cars began service on the Kansas City Zephyr, sometime around or after 1960 replacing the Vista Dome Parlor Observation cars, photos reveal the KCZ was operating back and forth between KCY and Chicao without being turned on a wye in KC on the Kansas City Terminal. Presumably to reduce switching costs. (Photos indicate this operating practice began earlier with the variety of Vista Dome Observations still in service on the KCZ in the late 50's.)

Thus you see many photos of the early sixties edition of the KCZ with the parlor diner Obs up against the RPO operating backwards and leading a dome coach (built for the TCZ usually)and other equipment.

I suspect, based on photographs, the diaphram striker plate was added to the Observation end of the Diner Parlor Obs cars in the early sixties for mid-train service (between head end and coaches, etc.) on Q passenger trains such as the KCZ and others.

Hubert

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@...> wrote:
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> I notice that picture 49 of this collection shows a Burlington pre-war diner-parlor-observation car that has been retrofitted with a rear diaphragm>  Which car was it and when did it get so retrofitted?
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> --- On Sat, 4/7/12, bdurham260 <bdurham260@...> wrote:
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> From: bdurham260 <bdurham260@...>
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: CB&Q "Bulington" Business car on the end of a Northern Pacific train??
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 8:25 PM
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> Picture 712 is the one I am referring too.
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> Brian Durham
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> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Martin <kmartin537@> wrote:
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> > If you are refering to number 48 this is not the "BURLINGTON" but checking Glicks Business car book this is Car 2nd number 100. It was built in 1913 as a private car, bought by the Q in 1931, sold by BN in 1971.
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> > Office cars carried officials to places they needed to go. Apparantly some official had to go somewhere on the NP so the car was hooked to the NP train.
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> > Ken Martin
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> > On Apr 7, 2012, at 1:30 PM, bdurham260 wrote:
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> > > I actually have the Burlington on my layout and actually have it on the tail end of a Northern Pacific train. I was surprised to see a picture of this in real life on the link below. There are a ton of pictures and I forgot what the number was, sorry.
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> > > So this brings me to why would this actually be done in real life?
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> > > http://melpatrick.shutterfly.com/pictures/183
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> > > Brian Durham
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