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Re: [CBQ] Food service on 1&10/11&12 late 60's

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Food service on 1&10/11&12 late 60's
From: Bob Webber <cz17@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:59:33 -0500
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At 03:56 PM 8/6/2011, you wrote:
>A RR friend of mind posed these two questions for me to share with the group:
>   In the late 1960's the "Q" removed the Chuck Wagon cars (Silver 
> Cup & Silver Kettle) from #1 and #10. They moved up the parlor-bar 
> cars from the rear of the train up to behind the diner. The 
> timetable shows a buffet/coach seating 44 passengers. I believe 
> this to be the Silver Parlor and Silver Chair cars after Aurora 
> Shops had removed the parlor seats and put in coach seats and 
> remade the Drawing Room into a buffet and cut a hole in the wall to 
> make a serving area for the food/beverage service. This meant that 
> the "Q" had to replace the one type of car (Chuck Wagon) with a 
> seperate food car (Silver Parlor or Silver Chair) AND put a dorm 
> car on the train for the crews to use. Someone here in MSP suggests 
> that probably a Silver Bird type of car with section space was run 
> on the rear of the train. This is a period when (probably) the 
> mixing of crews with regular passengers was frowned upon, unlike 
> now with Amtrak doing so. Why remove 1 car to replace it with 2 
> cars. The savings in crew costs for the Chuck Wagon type car would 
> probably only be a couple of men at most.?

Can't tell, "late 60s" involves a lot of time.

>Next question...At this same time in the timetables the consist for 
>#11 and #12 shows a dinette/coach for food and beverage service. 
>This was after the Nebraska Zephyr sets of equipment were removed 
>from $11-12 and the consists were merged at Galesburg with the West 
>Quincy service. We already know where the Silver Parlor and Silver 
>Chair cars are operating (#1 and #10) so what cars are operating on 
>#11-12. Did the "Q" bring up some former FW&D/C&S cars for this service?

SILVER FOUNTAIN & SPIRIT




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