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Re: [CBQ] Food service on 1&10/11&12 late 60's

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Food service on 1&10/11&12 late 60's
From: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:59:55 -0700 (PDT)
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After the California Service was combined with 11 and 12, the ex-DZ Chuckwagon 
cars Silver Kettle and Silver Cup generally provided the food service, except, 
I believe, the summer months, when those cars operated on the DZ.

--- On Sat, 8/6/11, Gerald Edgar <vje68@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Gerald Edgar <vje68@hotmail.com>
Subject: [CBQ] Food service on 1&10/11&12 late 60's
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 3:56 PM


  



A RR friend of mind posed these two questions for me to share with the group:
In the late 1960's the "Q" removed the Chuck Wagon cars (Silver Cup & Silver 
Kettle) from #1 and #10. They moved up the parlor-bar cars from the rear of the 
train up to behind the diner. The timetable shows a buffet/coach seating 44 
passengers. I believe this to be the Silver Parlor and Silver Chair cars after 
Aurora Shops had removed the parlor seats and put in coach seats and remade the 
Drawing Room into a buffet and cut a hole in the wall to make a serving area 
for the food/beverage service. This meant that the "Q" had to replace the one 
type of car (Chuck Wagon) with a seperate food car (Silver Parlor or Silver 
Chair) AND put a dorm car on the train for the crews to use. Someone here in 
MSP suggests that probably a Silver Bird type of car with section space was run 
on the rear of the train. This is a period when (probably) the mixing of crews 
with regular passengers was frowned upon, unlike now with Amtrak doing so. Why 
remove 1 car to replace it
 with 2 cars. The savings in crew costs for the Chuck Wagon type car would 
probably only be a couple of men at most.? 
Next question...At this same time in the timetables the consist for #11 and #12 
shows a dinette/coach for food and beverage service. This was after the 
Nebraska Zephyr sets of equipment were removed from $11-12 and the consists 
were merged at Galesburg with the West Quincy service. We already know where 
the Silver Parlor and Silver Chair cars are operating (#1 and #10) so what cars 
are operating on #11-12. Did the "Q" bring up some former FW&D/C&S cars for 
this service?








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