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RE: [CBQ] Food service on 1&10/11&12 late 60's

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From: John Van Ness <johnwvn@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:07:24 -0500
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  Good info.  You ready for an article?
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 20:56:11 +0000
Subject: [CBQ] Food service on 1&10/11&12 late 60's


















 



  


    
      
      
      A RR friend of mind posed these two questions for me to share with the 
group:

  In the late 1960's the "Q" removed the Chuck Wagon cars (Silver Cup & Silver 
Kettle) from #1 and #10. They moved up the parlor-bar cars from the rear of the 
train up to behind the diner. The timetable shows a buffet/coach seating 44 
passengers. I believe this to be the Silver Parlor and Silver Chair cars after 
Aurora Shops had removed the parlor seats and put in coach seats and remade the 
Drawing Room into a buffet and cut a hole in the wall to make a serving area 
for the food/beverage service. This meant that the "Q" had to replace the one 
type of car (Chuck Wagon) with a seperate food car (Silver Parlor or Silver 
Chair) AND put a dorm car on the train for the crews to use. Someone here in 
MSP suggests that probably a Silver Bird type of car with section space was run 
on the rear of the train. This is a period when (probably) the mixing of crews 
with regular passengers was frowned upon, unlike now with Amtrak doing so. Why 
remove 1 car to replace it with 2 cars. The savings in crew costs for the Chuck 
Wagon type car would probably only be a couple of men at most.?  

Next question...At this same time in the timetables the consist for #11 and #12 
shows a dinette/coach for food and beverage service. This was after the 
Nebraska Zephyr sets of equipment were removed from $11-12 and the consists 
were merged at Galesburg with the West Quincy service. We already know where 
the Silver Parlor and Silver Chair cars are operating (#1 and #10) so what cars 
are operating on #11-12. Did the "Q" bring up some former FW&D/C&S cars for 
this service?





    
     

    
    






                                          

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