Russ-
Please excuse some of the Model Railroad / Railfan terminology we thow
around....
"Run-through" - Power for a jointly operated train that stays on the train
when it goes off home rails rather than being swapped for the new road's power.
An example would be some of the EL power sets that showed up on the CB&Q....or
the UP power on the CD (???).
"Pool power" - Same as above but not necessarily in pure sets.. sometimes
combined with other road power.... and may be "stolen" to work on foreign road
to work off hours.
The notion of "pool power" for the CB&Q/FW&D/C&S is a little bogus since it was
a owner / subsidiary roads relationship to begin with. The article on use of
CB&Q F units on the C&S and FW&D didn't relate to "run through" or "pooling"
but IIRC the optimal assignment of power on a use cycle that was
Chicago-Denver-Ft.Worth and return. I don't recall if it was in a trade
publication or one of our magazines..... or maybe a Burlington Bulletin (the
CB&Q one). From your examples the C&S and FW&D units were in the assignment
power pool. ("Pool" being a group of locos available at a terminal for
assignment....not between roads).
Charlie Vlk
Really have no idea what you are talking about the CB&Q/C&S/FWD
on "pool power". Did not exist. In almost all places a route
like that could not be sent that way. Rates were not set up that
way.
"Run-through"? I have no idea what that means.
On the other hand the CB&Q used, on the system, gray backs on
both the CB&Q and the FWD. This was from the late 40's until
the mid 50's.
For example:
01-15-52, West Eola IL, #68 with 751A
01-15-52, West Eola IL, #75 with 702D
01-15-52, West Eola IL, #62 with 702A
10-30-51, West Eola IL, #68 with 750
10-30-51, West Eola IL, #75 with 751
10-30-51, West Eola IL, #CD with 702
10-30-51, West Eola IL, #74 with 751
Right from the start gray backs were very seldom used on four
units in the same number series, just chance. Normally they
were set as two units, as "A-B" and "D-C". Many operators did
not use the letters, just the numbers on gray backs. I know that
was rather strange as they would always use letters on passenger
units, just not on freight.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "cvlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 02 February, 2010 13:08
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Motive Power Run Through
>I believe the answer is yes.
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> Seems to me I remember seeing an article about the use of Q F units being
used down to Ft. Worth on a regular rotation.
> FW&D and C&S power did get to the Q but I don't think it was on a
run-through basis but more of seasonal power balancing or trading (i.e., C&S
4-6-0s and Q 01a s)
> After the sixties it wasn't unknown to see C&S and FW&D power in Chicago
but this may have been to bring them in for class repairs.
> Charlie Vlk
>
> I was wondering if the Q, C&S and the FW&D ever "pooled" power as in run
throughs in and out of Denver? I don't think I have ever seen any pictures of
it.
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> Mitch
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