I don't think many of us are aware of Sunset HO's NEW O-5, O-5 a&b offering.
Actually I've been watching it for at least a year. It is a new high tech
version with composite construction, sound and paint. It should be the HO
equivalent of thier 3-rail version that has been out for a while. I saw one of
the O Scale models at the last Lyons Township show and it is awe inspiring.
Almost makes one want to jump scales at least until Bev hits me over the head.
Here is the link. http://www.3rdrail.com/ho_scale.htm it is the O photo shown
but I have contacted them and it is coming. I don't know how soon but it is
further down the list than the Electroliner which is being advertised at
Chicagoland Hobbies in RMC. I would contact your local Sunset dealer and
reserve one or two. From the photos shown the O5 is not the earliest class
engine, it has a shield on the pilot similar to the later versions with the
sheet metal pilot. I already have an Oriental 5600 and like most of us would go
for the all weather cab. It wouldn't be 5632 so I can run it anywhere.
Here is the skinny from the ad.
a.. "Sunset Sound Included , 30" Radius Track Operation, Fully Detailed
Backhead, All Brass Construction, Sprung Drivers, QSI Quantum Sound,
Directional Lighting, Fully Detailed In Brass, Glazed Windows, Prototypical
Painting and Lettering, Quality Japanese Motors"
I can only hope it is as nice as my Sunset S4 and that I can manage to find
$700 (list price) laying around. That is a lot less expennsive than another
Oriental or Toby model. Figure a Dcc Sound chip is $100 and installation is
worth some time and money even if you do it, so 5 to $600 for a painted brass
O5 is a bargain. Except that the ecconomy is so lousy.
Your Best CB&Q modeling buddy,
Rob Manley
a..
b.. From: bigbearoak
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Re:O5
Weren't some of the Sunset O5s (coal burners) mistakenly produced without ash
pans?
That certainly would simplify things! (maybe that was another model, though)
I dunno, Duncan. Whether to buy a specific (expensive) model always comes
down to how
you set your priorities. How important is fidelity to a specific prototype?
How important is
price? How important is the amount of work you have to do on the model?
If you really want 5632, there have been many imports of oil-burning O5s over
the years
(PFM, Oriental, Sunset, Challenger, ... am I missing any?); they pop up at
hobby shops and
on eBay all the time; if you are patient and search regularly, there will be
many (painted
and unpainted) choices of different vintage, manufacture, and price.
However, if this particular consignment engine is a real bargain,* from what
Bill says, it
doesn't sound like there's a lot of work involved in a believable conversion
- certainly less
than with the generic USRA engines (BLI's 2-8-2 and P2K's 2-10-2). The oil
bunker could
even be styrene, and it could be removable if you ever wanted to re-sell the
engine.
(Consider, too, that any work you do to modify the engine may lower its
resale value - or
raise it, depending on the quality and nature of your work and on the whims
of the market
at the time you sell).
(*To investigate how much of a bargain your consignment model is, you can
check
comparable prices at hobby shops on line and search on eBay for completed
sales of other
Sunset O-5s).
Good luck!
Jonathan Harris
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, William Barber <clipperw@...> wrote:
>
> Duncan,
>
> I assume that i is an HO scale model (Sunset has produced several O
> scale versions over the years.). First, you need to determine what
> time frame you want to model. Prior to the early 1950's, #5632 and
> all other O5s were all coal burners. None were built as oil burners.
> If you are modeling #5632 after oil conversion and before the fan
> trip, you will need to build and install an oil tank where the coal
> bunker is. Numerous photos of the bunker applications are available
> as are drawings of the locomotive. (Some Sunset hudson models
> included the oil tank as a "slip in" application for those that
> wanted to model one of the two oil burning hudson.) The second thing
> that has to change is removal of the ash pans along the bottom of the
> firebox. On some HO hudsons, these were mounted with with screws.
> From a model standpoint, there are no other significant exterior
> features for the oil burner. If you are modeling the locomotive
> during the fantrip era (late 1958 to 1964), there are a couple of
> other changes that occurred. Shortly after entering fantrip service,
> #5632 was equipped with cab signal to operate in the Chicago area.
> This included an equipment box on the boiler near the whistle and a
> second generator (for cab signal power) adjacent to the original
> generator.
>
> During the fantrip era, the paint scheme also changed. The normal "in
> service" graphite coloring on the smoke box and firebox change to
> silver (aluminum) and when the chinese red came in in 1959, the cab
> roof on #5632 was also painted chinese red. Of course, for the 1964
> suburban service centennial, she was painted gold from coupler to
> coupler. Later in the year, she also painted gold for a trip out of
> Kansas City.
>
> Bill Barber
>
> On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:55 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> > O5
> > Posted by: "Duncan Cameron" d.cameron@... duncan_cameronca
> > Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:55 pm (PST)
> >
> > Hi everyone. Local train store has a consignment Sunset O5 (I think
> > #5623). It's a coal burner. Can anyone comment on how hard it would
> > be to convert this to #5632, and what the value of this locomotive
> > would be?
> > Duncan Cameron
>
>
>
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>
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