I got my O-5 in 1969 from All Nation for about $150.00
plus s&h. Changed the pilot for a Milw. Rd. S-2 from
NWSL for the working drop coupler. Last I saw it was
worth about $1,000.00. ....CY
--- dfhollis@comcast.net wrote:
> When did PFM import an O-5B? Which run was it?
>
>
> When did they use Chinese Red on roofs? Didn't they
> use "plumbago" a form lead oxide?
>
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> From: "bigbearoak" <jonathanharris@earthlink.net>
> Weren't some of the Sunset O5s (coal burners)
> mistakenly produced without ash pans?
> That certainly would simplify things! (maybe that
> was another model, though)
>
> I dunno, Duncan. Whether to buy a specific
> (expensive) model always comes down to how
> you set your priorities. How important is fidelity
> to a specific prototype? How important is
> price? How important is the amount of work you have
> to do on the model?
>
> If you really want 5632, there have been many
> imports of oil-burning O5s over the years
> (PFM, Oriental, Sunset, Challenger, ... am I missing
> any?); they pop up at hobby shops and
> on eBay all the time; if you are patient and search
> regularly, there will be many (painted
> and unpainted) choices of different vintage,
> manufacture, and price.
>
> However, if this particular consignment engine is a
> real bargain,* from what Bill says, it
> doesn't sound like there's a lot of work involved in
> a believable conversion - certainly less
> than with the generic USRA engines (BLI's 2-8-2 and
> P2K's 2-10-2). The oil bunker could
> even be styrene, and it could be removable if you
> ever wanted to re-sell the engine.
> (Consider, too, that any work you do to modify the
> engine may lower its resale value - or
> raise it, depending on the quality and nature of
> your work and on the whims of the market
> at the time you sell).
>
> (*To investigate how much of a bargain your
> consignment model is, you can check
> comparable prices at hobby shops on line and search
> on eBay for completed sales of other
> Sunset O-5s).
>
> Good luck!
> Jonathan Harris
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, William Barber
> <clipperw@...> wrote:
> >
> > Duncan,
> >
> > I assume that i is an HO scale model (Sunset has
> produced several O
> > scale versions over the years.). First, you need
> to determine what
> > time frame you want to model. Prior to the early
> 1950's, #5632 and
> > all other O5s were all coal burners. None were
> built as oil burners.
> > If you are modeling #5632 after oil conversion and
> before the fan
> > trip, you will need to build and install an oil
> tank where the coal
> > bunker is. Numerous photos of the bunker
> applications are available
> > as are drawings of the locomotive. (Some Sunset
> hudson models
> > included the oil tank as a "slip in" application
> for those that
> > wanted to model one of the two oil burning
> hudson.) The second thing
> > that has to change is removal of the ash pans
> along the bottom of the
> > firebox. On some HO hudsons, these were mounted
> with with screws.
> > From a model standpoint, there are no other
> significant exterior
> > features for the oil burner. If you are modeling
> the locomotive
> > during the fantrip era (late 1958 to 1964), there
> are a couple of
> > other changes that occurred. Shortly after
> entering fantrip service,
> > #5632 was equipped with cab signal to operate in
> the Chicago area.
> > This included an equipment box on the boiler near
> the whistle and a
> > second generator (for cab signal power) adjacent
> to the original
> > generator.
> >
> > During the fantrip era, the paint scheme also
> changed. The normal "in
> > service" graphite coloring on the smoke box and
> firebox change to
> > silver (aluminum) and when the chinese red came in
> in 1959, the cab
> > roof on #5632 was also painted chinese red. Of
> course, for the 1964
> > suburban service centennial, she was painted gold
> from coupler to
> > coupler. Later in the year, she also painted gold
> for a trip out of
> > Kansas City.
> >
> > Bill Barber
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:55 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> wrote:
> >
> > > O5
> > > Posted by: "Duncan Cameron" d.cameron@...
> duncan_cameronca
> > > Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:55 pm (PST)
> > >
> > > Hi everyone. Local train store has a consignment
> Sunset O5 (I think
> > > #5623). It's a coal burner. Can anyone comment
> on how hard it would
> > > be to convert this to #5632, and what the value
> of this locomotive
> > > would be?
> > > Duncan Cameron
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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