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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re:O5
From: cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:59:33 -0800 (PST)
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That should say cab sig. box (can't type tonight).
--- dfhollis@comcast.net wrote:

> Did it come from PFM an oil-burner? I though they
> were all coal burners.
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com> 
> I got my O-5 in 1969 from All Nation for about
> $150.00
> plus s&h. Changed the pilot for a Milw. Rd. S-2 from
> NWSL for the working drop coupler. Last I saw it was
> worth about $1,000.00. ....CY
> --- dfhollis@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> > When did PFM import an O-5B? Which run was it?
> > 
> > 
> > When did they use Chinese Red on roofs? Didn't
> they
> > use "plumbago" a form lead oxide?
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "bigbearoak" <jonathanharris@earthlink.net> 
> > Weren't some of the Sunset O5s (coal burners)
> > mistakenly produced without ash pans? 
> > That certainly would simplify things! (maybe that
> > was another model, though)
> > 
> > I dunno, Duncan. Whether to buy a specific
> > (expensive) model always comes down to how 
> > you set your priorities. How important is fidelity
> > to a specific prototype? How important is 
> > price? How important is the amount of work you
> have
> > to do on the model? 
> > 
> > If you really want 5632, there have been many
> > imports of oil-burning O5s over the years 
> > (PFM, Oriental, Sunset, Challenger, ... am I
> missing
> > any?); they pop up at hobby shops and 
> > on eBay all the time; if you are patient and
> search
> > regularly, there will be many (painted 
> > and unpainted) choices of different vintage,
> > manufacture, and price. 
> > 
> > However, if this particular consignment engine is
> a
> > real bargain,* from what Bill says, it 
> > doesn't sound like there's a lot of work involved
> in
> > a believable conversion - certainly less 
> > than with the generic USRA engines (BLI's 2-8-2
> and
> > P2K's 2-10-2). The oil bunker could 
> > even be styrene, and it could be removable if you
> > ever wanted to re-sell the engine. 
> > (Consider, too, that any work you do to modify the
> > engine may lower its resale value - or 
> > raise it, depending on the quality and nature of
> > your work and on the whims of the market 
> > at the time you sell).
> > 
> > (*To investigate how much of a bargain your
> > consignment model is, you can check 
> > comparable prices at hobby shops on line and
> search
> > on eBay for completed sales of other 
> > Sunset O-5s). 
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > Jonathan Harris
> > 
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, William Barber
> > <clipperw@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Duncan,
> > > 
> > > I assume that i is an HO scale model (Sunset has
> > produced several O 
> > > scale versions over the years.). First, you need
> > to determine what 
> > > time frame you want to model. Prior to the early
> > 1950's, #5632 and 
> > > all other O5s were all coal burners. None were
> > built as oil burners. 
> > > If you are modeling #5632 after oil conversion
> and
> > before the fan 
> > > trip, you will need to build and install an oil
> > tank where the coal 
> > > bunker is. Numerous photos of the bunker
> > applications are available 
> > > as are drawings of the locomotive. (Some Sunset
> > hudson models 
> > > included the oil tank as a "slip in" application
> > for those that 
> > > wanted to model one of the two oil burning
> > hudson.) The second thing 
> > > that has to change is removal of the ash pans
> > along the bottom of the 
> > > firebox. On some HO hudsons, these were mounted
> > with with screws. 
> > > From a model standpoint, there are no other
> > significant exterior 
> > > features for the oil burner. If you are modeling
> > the locomotive 
> > > during the fantrip era (late 1958 to 1964),
> there
> > are a couple of 
> > > other changes that occurred. Shortly after
> > entering fantrip service, 
> > > #5632 was equipped with cab signal to operate in
> > the Chicago area. 
> > > This included an equipment box on the boiler
> near
> > the whistle and a 
> > > second generator (for cab signal power) adjacent
> > to the original 
> > > generator.
> > > 
> > > During the fantrip era, the paint scheme also
> > changed. The normal "in 
> > > service" graphite coloring on the smoke box and
> > firebox change to 
> > > silver (aluminum) and when the chinese red came
> in
> > in 1959, the cab 
> > > roof on #5632 was also painted chinese red. Of
> > course, for the 1964 
> > > suburban service centennial, she was painted
> gold
> > from coupler to 
> > > coupler. Later in the year, she also painted
> gold
> > for a trip out of 
> > > Kansas City.
> > > 
> > > Bill Barber
> > > 
> > > On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:55 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > O5
> > > > Posted by: "Duncan Cameron" d.cameron@...
> > duncan_cameronca
> > > > Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:55 pm (PST)
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone. Local train store has a
> consignment
> > Sunset O5 (I think 
> > > > #5623). It's a coal burner. Can anyone comment
> > on how hard it would 
> > > > be to convert this to #5632, and what the
> value
> > of this locomotive 
> > > > would be?
> > > > Duncan Cameron
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > removed]
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
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