Russ-
The No.7 truck was the 5'-0" wheelbase wood beam passenger style truck used
under all cupola wood waycars (except the one that had allied full cushion
trucks applied as an experiment,
nitpickers!!!).
The NE12 was the welded Havelock-built car with the "streamlined" cupola.
First few were painted Orange and looked really ugly (must have been the
rivet-less flat sides...the NE-10s looked
fine in that color).
The NE13 were the Q's version of the standard Morrision-International Extended
Vision cupola car. They had several batches and they were painted in the same
Silver version of the freight F Unit
Black Stripe Edged in Red scheme that the NE12s were repainted/delivered in.
Charlie Vlk
----- Original Message -----
From: Russ Strodtz
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Assigned Waycars
Charlie,
"No.7 truck", "NE12","NE13"?
You lost me there.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: Charlie Vlk
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September, 2007 09:40
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Assigned Waycars
Leo-
I understand the riding qualities regarding slack action and the advantage
of cushioned underframes.... but did the NE12 and NE13 have much in the way
of cushioned draft gear???
However, the No.7 truck must have given a decent ride as even the
thrifty-minded CB&Q would not have been able to withstand the wheels of
progress
and the BRT/UTU for as long as they did. More likely the brotherhoods
caved in because all the other divisions and railroads in the country
abandoned
assigned cabooses/waycars. I do know the wood cars were getting pretty
ratty after the BN merger because Joe Legner was approached by the
BN Mechanical Department because they knew we had a full set of waycar
drawings (which they didn't) and they were contemplating a major rebuild of
a number of cars!
Instead, they ended up buying a few of the surplus ATSF cars (redeeming
all the former liars making HO and N Scale copies of those cars painted in
any
roadname under the sun!!).
The No. 7 truck must have been a good thing to make a oak, cast iron, and
wrought steel bar assembly design last behind wood burning diamond-stacked
4-4-0s through U33C and SD45 power in a time span of over 100 years!!!
The design shared many details with a number of six wheel trucks and the
No.2 (and variations)
longer wheelbase four wheel passenger car truck.
Charlie Vlk
PS- The UP and the C&NW thought highly of the design as well making
almost identical copies of the No. 7 truck for their waycars... even to the
point of the UP having a
program of reequipping wood and steel cars that had been built with cast
freight car trucks with them...for cars assigned to mainline service!!!
They even officially referred
to it as the "Q" truck.
And talk about a rough ride due to unbuffered slack action !? Must have
been what it was like to ride in the old wooden cars in the 60s.
Probably why
they agreed to go to the new pooled cabooses.
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