Maybe the long overdue Waycar Book is tagging along with Ed's book.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed DeRouin <Ed@pixelspublishing.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:02 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Silver Treasure, CZ Bags, and Green vs. Black
Listers:
Just to throw in my $0.02:
Silver Treasure was built with a steam generator for the Silver Streak Zephyr,
which was
planned to be pulled by a boiler-less EA. As more E units were acquired, the
S/G was
removed from the car, circa 1952-3.
A fomer 14th Street Coach Yard clerk does not recall turning, or checking water
tank levels
on CZ bags, unlike the NP cars. I have no record of these cars every containing
water tanks
and do not recall any document or conversation on that subject in my years of
interest in
the CB&Q.
Regarding green versus black, Stephen was not all wrong, Q people referred to
non-
stainless, non-aluminum painted passenger equipment as black. For example,
"Number
35 has two black cars today."
For those of you with an interest in a certain book on mail and express, I am
pleased to
announce that the ship sailed from the Port of Hong Kong this morning.
Regards,
Ed DeRouin
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Reeves" <drale99@...> wrote:
>
> The roofs were black. DRale----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@...>
> To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] California Zephyr/Nebraska Zephyr/Pool 1949 Budd Baggage
> Cars
>
>
> >I was still a toddler at the time, so dark green would have looked black to
> >me.
> >
> > sjl
> >
> > John Trulson <norskeviking@...> wrote:
> > I'd really question a "black" Havelock baggage car, dark green
> > yes. John
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stephen J. Levine<mailto:sjl@...>
> > To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com<mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 6:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CBQ] California Zephyr/Nebraska Zephyr/Pool 1949 Budd
> > Baggage Cars
> >
> > When I took my first ride on the CZ, back in the early 50's, it was
> > running a black Havelock baggage car.
> >
> > sjl
> >
> > Aeolus3@...<mailto:Aeolus3@...> wrote:
> > As far as the question of baggage cars, when there had to be a substitute
> > baggage car on the CZ the only one I have ever seen a photo of was a
> > Burlington
> > Havelock baggage car. Of course I'm not saying that other baggage cars
> > were
> > put into use... the only one I've seen a photo of was a Havelock.
> >
> > As far as the Q F-3's go, they stayed together throughout most their
> > service
> > life. One reason being they lacked dynamic braking. This is perhaps why
> > after being removed from passenger service and later repainted in gray
> > they kept
> > the original numbers 9960-9962 ABC. Dynamic brakes were never installed on
> > those nine F units. Although the steam boilers were removed, when I don't
> > know
> > but I would think at the time they were shopped for repainting.
> >
> > I have thought about modeling a set in freight paint, 9961 ABC of course
> > using the Genesis bodies. I was hoping Athearn would do a set in freight
> > paint,
> > but they haven't said anything about that.
> >
> > Loren Johnson
> >
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