Bill-
The MTZ probably hasn't deterioated as much as you think. Not too much you can
do to stainless steel. I imagine that with enough money one could get it back
in original condition... similar to the PZ restoration for the Museum of
Science and Industry.
The real fantasy would be to build new shovel noses for the DZ or Nebraska
Zephyr trainsets.... sort of like the Brits building a 4-6-2 from scratch.
Hmmm.. Bill Gates likes trains.....
Charlie Vlk
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From: clipperw@EarthLink.net
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: texas zephyr
Bob,
My comment was only in jest. I had no intention of starting an
international incident. My only point was that the Saudi government
could afford to return the train for historical purposes. I am enough
of a realist to know that such things will never happen. Still, it is
interesting to speculate concerning the train and it's current
condition. For all anyone knows, it could be well preserved and
maintained and in pristine shape. I believe there was an article in
Trains Magazine a few years back about the Saudi railways that
mention the existence of one of the trains at that time.
As for the MTZ, I am also enough of a realist to know that that
probably won't happen either. I saw it years ago and it's condition
was terrible at that time. I can only imagine how much further it has
deteriorated today. Last I heard, it was in a junk yard, in Illinois
I believe.
Bill Barber
On Nov 21, 2006, at 2:18 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: texas zephyr
>
> Posted by: "Bob Webber" no17@comcast.net rsgrzw
>
> Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:23 am (PST)
>
> Bill, you're treading on dangerous territory, into the realm of
> politics and such. The House of Saud, and the House of Bush have
> been holding hands, literally, for over 30 years, where America
> actually gets most of the crude it uses, etc. This isn't the forum
> for that.
>
> And too, everyone has their own pet project. One example of this was
> an email floating around last year when one veteran organization was
> ripping Target for not directly contributing to them, even though the
> company had donated millions to other veteran organizations. So,
> there was a huge email campaign against Target, because they wouldn't
> fund this one segment. Imagine, what would happen if EVERY charity
> did that! The point being not to protect Target, but rather to point
> out that one person's or one group's "need" is not necessarily that
> large in the big picture. Not saying it CAN'T be, but there has to
> be a bit of reason to things.
>
> And, when it comes to reason, such a thing as a train set, regardless
> of how we feel about it, is likely not going to be given short shrift
> (from the Saudis) when it comes up in the same breath as money for a
> 9/11 memorial or perhaps a state-of-the-art prosthetics and orthodics
> hospital and rehabilitation center, which is far more needed.
>
> And, as I say, there is always the MTZ sitting there. As far as I'm
> concerned, the Saudi units are pipe dreams. It's akin to worrying
> about the deathly affects of bacon on teens when accidents between
> 3pm and 8pm are responsible for the most teen deaths in this
> country. Or looking for a half dollar you lost on 4th street on
> Broadway because the lights better there.
>
> The MTZ is real, it has all of the glass and interior fittings
> available. It is in-country, it is available, and it is at least as
> historic. Sometimes low-hanging fruit may not be as intuitively
> appealing, but it's often as sweet.
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