I had thought that it was always behind the diner too,
but the GN Empire site had consist lists for the EB
from 1955 on and it said that in 1967 the Dome Lounge
was moved to infront of the diner. It didn't make
sense to me because I had read that the reason it was
placed BEHIND the diner in the first place was for the
sleeping car passengers to be able to wait in the
lounge until their diner reservation or a table was
free. Putting it infront of the diner would make them
walk through the diner to get to the lounge to wait
for the table. But I got it from another website I was
looking at too and most of the info I already have for
the EB is 1955-1960.
I shall continue looking.
-Dereck
206612.tripod.com
--- cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dome/Lounge(Great Dome) 1390-1395 was behind Diner.
> It was the First Class(Sleeper) lounge. Traveled a
> lot St. Paul - Chicago in coach, but usually snuck
> back to the big dome for postcards and note paper.
> Sometimes it had a sleeper between diner and lounge.
>
> But never remember it ahead of diner. It was really
> a
> mess when all three were combined. The Blackhawk
> in
> the 50's also had hvw't coaches. CY
>
> --- Dereck <deke8706@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anybody have any consists for the combined
> > Western Star/Black
> > Hawk for 1968-1971 on the CB&Q? I think by this
> time
> > the
> > Mainstreeter was also combined with them.
> >
> > Also, does anyone have consists for the Empire
> > Builder/North Coast
> > Limited/TCZ?
> >
> > I am planning for a future Q/BN layout Savanna-La
> > Crosse and am
> > trying to figure out what I need to order as far
> as
> > the Walthers EB
> > cars. I just picked up the first one today, the 60
> > seat coach, and
> > am very impressed with it. I plan on modeling two
> > consists, a 1968-
> > 69 train, and a 1970 BN pre-Amtrak train.
> >
> > So far all I have is the winter '68 EB:
> >
> > Q Baggage
> > 60 Seat Coach (1209-1214)
> > Dome Coach (1320-1335)
> > Dome Coach (1320-1335)
> > Ranch Car (1240-1245)
> > Dome Lounge (1390-1395)
> > Diner (1250-1255)
> > 6-5-2 Sleeper (1370-1384)
> > 7-6-1 Sleeper (1262-1264)
> > 6-5-2 Sleeper (1370-1384)
> > Plus the NCL
> >
> > I *thought* the Q added either another coach or a
> > dome-coach at the
> > front for the TCZ riders, but I'm not finding
> > anything on that at
> > the moment.
> >
> > I don't have anything on the Western Star yet. I
> > remember seeing
> > photos of it on the GN, I think it was something
> > like 6-8
> > baggage/RPO, a Day-Nite Coach, a diner, a 16-4
> > sleeper, and another
> > 6-8 baggages, and I think that photo was the late
> > 50's anyway. I
> > know a lot of the older EB equip got bumped to the
> > WS, did the
> > Coulee series obs cars go there or was it the
> > Mountain series? They
> > might have been the obs series that got rebuilt
> into
> > coaches,
> > because I think the Mountain series ones were
> still
> > around...
> >
> > I am a member of the Passconsist list and will
> start
> > sifting through
> > their message history in a couple of minutes to
> see
> > if there is
> > anything there. I'm also on the GN list but
> haven't
> > really been
> > paying attention to their posts on it until
> someone
> > reviewed the 60
> > Seater last night and I saw just how sweet they
> are
> > at the hobby
> > shop today. So I need to start going back through
> > that stuff too.
> >
> > Thanks for any help in advance,
> > -Dereck
> > 206612.tripod.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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