Lyle-
The practice of running the TCZ with two observations was fairly common in
the late 60's....
The only Q Tavern/Baggage would have been the TCZ Baggage Bar :Lounge Cars
800 Silver Buffet and 801 Silver Salon.
Maybe the Obvs were subbing for these cars but why??
I think the trains were normally turned even with the obvs on both ends....
Charlie
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From: "Lyle Dowell" <slyone@ix.netcom.com>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: TCZ question -- was:Re: [CBQ] Re: turning passenger cars
> Hi Charlie, would you characterize the double-ended obs arrangement as
> moderately common, occasional, rare, etc? You happen to have caught me
> at a time where I'm assembling a reasonable facsimile of a TCZ, and this
> consist might be of interest to me. :-) What the world needs now is a
> model of a Q tavern/baggage! (It probably exists, I haven't gone
> looking yet)
> Lyle
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> Charlie Vlk wrote:
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>>Duncan and Tom-
>>The heavyweight diner-lounge might not have been turned...depends on the
>>era
>>as most often diners were run with the kitchen end forward...
>>The TCZ often ran with an observation car on both ends....either one of
>>the
>>diner-lounge-observations or sometimes the Q's NCL car in silver.
>>Also remember seeing square end dome obvs cars (DZ, KCZ) and GN Mountain
>>series cars used the same way.
>>This would be later in the 60's as things didn't go to hell until after
>>1965
>>or thereabouts IIRC....
>>Charlie Vlk
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