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Re: [CBQ] Couple of more dispatcher sheet questions

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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:51:36 -0500
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Bill
I would say the double lines may have denoted the double track.  Do not know 
for sure
As far as the Machens problem.  See trains 83 and 91 and 84 and 92  They just 
appear at a station where they enter or depart the line(sheet)  If you are 
having problems with a dispatcher send him on a road trip and let him see the 
road to get a better understanding of how it works.  Even after almost 32 years 
and a few road trips I still learn something new on each trip(when they let us 
out)  Not knowing the line is as much a problem for a dispatcher as for a train 
crew.  Although to day being over a thousand miles away and only talking to the 
train crews on a telephone or radio and with a CTC system more akin to a 
computer game it is hard to relate to a train crew wading around in snow up to 
their a--  in 40 to 60 mile per hour blowing snow with the temp below 32 
degrees and I went to work in shirt sleeves and sun.
Depending on the number of trains you operate you may have to splice sheets to 
get the size you need.  Ours were all very large and with the East End(Aurora 
to Chicago) we used a sheet for each shift.  Other positions often had to 
splice on to make the sheet big enough they were some times 4 to 6 foot long.
And you think it was neat you should have seen the art work we wound up using 
when track warrants came into effect.  Course that was in the BC era.  Today we 
use no paper train sheets except on a couple jobs so when people try to do what 
I have done in writing about what happened on a certain day there will be no 
paper tail to follow like with the CB&Q

sjh
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Hirt 
  To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [CBQ] Couple of more dispatcher sheet questions


  sholding@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  > Bill
  > The sheet on Page 26-27 is the main line sheet and covers Creston to Omaha  
The sheet on Page 46-47 is for the branch lines off that mainline section.
  > Note the center shows Hamburg to Griswold.  With Red Oak in the center of 
the column  The 9104 only operated from Red Oak north to Griswold so is only 
shown on the top part.  At the time the heavier road engines would be parked in 
Red Oak and the crew used a smaller lighter engine to make the side trip.
  > I am not sure when the sheets changed but some time in the late 60 or at 
the merger to save printing costs the sheets became generic and a printed 
station column sticker was used.  But this was not the same in all offices of 
the BN some used printed sheets which were more professional and the only ones 
I have collected.
  > Signaling and CTC was not marked on the train sheet.  Unless it was out or 
a signal was out then would be listed in the delay column.  Who reported and 
when fixed.  When trains were reversed in the Rule 251 territory then it was 
shown with red lines across the column between the stations the train was 
reversed.

  Thanks Steve.

  I do have a couple of more questions if you do not mind. On the sheet on 
  page 26-27. there are double lines between Red Oak and McPherson, and 
  between Balfour and Glenwood. Now on page 28 there is a picture of an 
  operator sitting at the CTC panel at Creston along with the beginning of 
  CTC just west of Red Oak. The caption said one track between Red Oak and 
  Balfour was removed when the CTC was installed. So do the double lines 
  on the sheet above indicate the end and then the beginning of two main 
  tracks? If so, I have a place where that would useful on my sheet.

  On the K Line, the MKT entered and left at Machens. This happened other 
  places on the system also. Was there anything on the sheets indicating 
  things like this? This seems to be a source of confusion for some 
  dispatchers on my model railroad.

  I am definitively going to incorporate the Stock and Perishable counts 
  on the sheets. I already have my crews blocking trains to put these 
  "loaded" cars on the head end.

  Once I get it "done", I'll post a copy in the files area for others to 
  look at, use for themselves, or comment on. It will probably be an Excel 
  file. I've already checked with my local OfficeMax and they just got a 
  printer that can easily do large sheets (like (18"x24" or 18"x30") and 
  can print it via an Excel file.

  I look forward to the article on the Iowa Branch lines through 
  Centerville. Lenny Ohrnell and I were up exploring that area last month 
  on the way to and back from Galesburg Railroad Days. So your article 
  will have additional interest and meaning to us.

  Bill Hirt


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