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Re: [CBQ] Detained and threatened by METRA police

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Detained and threatened by METRA police
From: "East Pass" <EastPass@19main.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:15:14 -0600
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Ralph,

I strongly disagree. Railroad photography as a hobby is
no longer worth while pursuing. BNSF Management actively
and vocally encourages all Employees to report anyone
that does not appear to be an Employee and is near Railroad
property. This is a classic case where Management can not
control what they are being paid to control, (Operations),
so they divert their energies elsewhere. If a train that
is 185 hours late turns in a "Trespasser" that is something
great.

I've watched this grow for 39 years of my life. In three
years will be walking away and not taking any backwards
glances. There are many, many more that feel the same way.

Russ 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ralph W. Brown, Jr. 
  To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, 09 January, 2005 23:00
  Subject: [CBQ] Detained and threatened by METRA police



  Here in Galesburg during railroad days, many people from all over the U.S. 
come to take photographs.  I understand why.  However, living here all of my 
life, I hear the people I know talk about the railfans.  They think 
photographing trains is ridiculous.  Of course 98% of Galesburg residents begin 
to cuss and swear when they see the crossing gates go down.  They see the 
trains a big inconvenience.  They think the railfan is odd.  Most people do not 
understand our hobby.

  I noticed that the original post indicated that the police in question were 
driving a Brookfield City Police car.  I'm sure the METRA and other railroad 
police are familiar with railfans.  The city police probably don't understand 
the hobby.  You have to put yourself in the non-railfan's mind.  I suppose a 
couple of guys with cameras taking pictures, of all things, trains is odd.  I'm 
guessing the police thought so too and decided to check them out.  What is not 
to say a citizen seen the railfans and thought they were suspicious and called 
the police.  What were the police supposed to do, not check on them?  I also 
didn't read anything about intimidation or confiscation of film.

  I wasn't there.  I do believe that calling the police names under the cloak 
of this list is out of line.  I guess you should've said it to the police 
officer's face.  Again, I wasn't there so I don't know all of the facts.  It is 
human nature that, especially adults, do not like to be told what to do.  
People also don't like to be corrected.  I do know that trespassing on railroad 
property is crime.  I also know that the railroad has many signs posted 
indicating no trespassing.  So maybe an arrest was possible.

  In this day and age, we as railfans are going to have to be conscious of our 
activity.    Enough of my thoughts.  I hope that the railfans involved in this 
incident were able to get some good photographs that day.  Don't give up 
railfanning.  Its too good of a hobby to leave over something like that.  Thank 
you.

  R.W. Brown, Jr.
  Galesburg, IL
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