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Re: [CBQ] Re: C&S Oil Burners

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: C&S Oil Burners
From: "Bob Yarger" <ryarger@rypn.org>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:19:59 -0500
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I don't own one, but believe the Spectrum 2-8-0s have about 60" drivers, a
bit large for the C&S, and more suited to those with 63" prototypes, such as
the Rock Island, Mopac, Maine Central, etc..  In N scale, the Bachmann
drivers scale out about right, due to the wheels being smaller in diameter.

I think the best chassis to begin a B4R1 (644-648) might be the old Santa Fe
1950 class 2-8-0, imported by PFM.  It has the proper 13-spoke, 57" drivers.
The Harriman 2-8-0s also have the right drivers and wheel spacing, but have
Stephenson valve gear.  The B4R class have 15-spoke drivers and I'm not sure
of a source for these, but happily there are two remaining examples to
measure, plus the FW&D 304 in Texas (built to the same plans originally).
These are all narrow firebox engines.

The 500s were wide firebox locomotives, and I think one of the Santa Fe
2-8-0s of the 870 class might be rebuilt into one of these.

Much easier if some importer could be persuaded to have them built.  One did
show a photo of a B4R1 some years ago (labeled as a "CB&Q" 2-8-0), but I
don't think any were ever built.

Given a choice, I'd probably model the 1957-59 (silver smokebox) era, which
I remember.

Bob Yarger, Editor
Railway Preservation News (free website)
www.rypn.org

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From: <jonathanharris@earthlink.net>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:52 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: C&S Oil Burners


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> What other (steam) power are you planning for your re-creation of the
> "transitional" C&S? I'm curious especially about smaller engines, e.g.,
> their ubiquitous consolidations, and how you are going to handle that,
> given the lack of any really accurate models. When the Spectrum 2-8-0s
came
> out some years ago, I thought about getting one as a stand-in, but the
> Baker valve gear was too much of a turn off and I figured it probably
would
> be a lot of work to replace. But maybe not. Anyway, I was wondering about
> more basic things like the wheelbase of the Spectrum 2-8-0 as well as that
> engine's overall length, boiler and driver diameter -- the sorts of things
> that no amount of tinkering can easily fix. Have you looked into this or
> other possible starting points? or do you have any other neat suggestions
> for plausible conversions from anything that's currently available?
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> Best wishes. I admire your choice of prototype and era.
> Jonathan
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