I was referring to the brass Harriman 2-8-0s, which have 57" drivers, with
13 spokes. PFM and others have made these several times. The MDC
Roundhouse model is somewhat of a mongrel, with drivers that are too big for
a Harriman. One review I read had them at 66" diameter. There was an
article years ago on converting one to an accurate SP engine, with different
wheels and details. I think it was in RMC. There are no readily available
57" drivers I know of other than from brass importers.
As you say, the nostalgia factor for steam is fading. I'm probably one of
the youngest persons to remember steam in regular service and I'm now 58.
Interest in narrow gauge is more historical, as hardly anyone alive today
remembers the C&S narrow gauge, yet models are available by the dozen.
Bob Yarger, Editor
Railway Preservation News (free website)
www.rypn.org
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From: <jonathanharris@earthlink.net>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: C&S Oil Burners
>
> Thanks, Bob, for this very useful information. Regrarding the Spectrum
> engine, it's about what I feared.
>
> I was a little confused by your remarks on the Harriman 2-8-0. Couldn't
> tell from your sentence whether this is the same as PFM's Santa Fe engine
> or a different model. If the latter, who made it? I believe there have
been
> Harriman engines produced by various companies, from MDC-Roundhouse at the
> low end to a number of brass importers, but it's never occurred to me to
> get one so I haven't kept track.
>
> Like you, I am disappointed, and frankly a little surprised, that no
> importer has ever done a C&S 2-8-0 (standard gauge, that is). Yes, in one
> sense it's a somewhat obscure prototype, but these were some of the last
> steam engines operating on a Class I railroad anywhere in the US, in both
> freight and fan-trip service, and as such they were seen, photographed,
and
> loved by thousands. But that was over 40 years ago now, so at this point I
> guess that window has pretty much closed (sigh).
>
> Jonathan
>
> --------------
> >I don't own one, but believe the Spectrum 2-8-0s have about 60" drivers,
a
> >bit large for the C&S, and more suited to those with 63" prototypes, such
as
> >the Rock Island, Mopac, Maine Central, etc.. In N scale, the Bachmann
> >drivers scale out about right, due to the wheels being smaller in
diameter.
> >
> >I think the best chassis to begin a B4R1 (644-648) might be the old Santa
Fe
> >1950 class 2-8-0, imported by PFM. It has the proper 13-spoke, 57"
drivers.
> >The Harriman 2-8-0s also have the right drivers and wheel spacing, but
have
> >Stephenson valve gear. The B4R class have 15-spoke drivers and I'm not
sure
> >of a source for these, but happily there are two remaining examples to
> >measure, plus the FW&D 304 in Texas (built to the same plans originally).
> >These are all narrow firebox engines.
> >
> >The 500s were wide firebox locomotives, and I think one of the Santa Fe
> >2-8-0s of the 870 class might be rebuilt into one of these.
> >
> >Much easier if some importer could be persuaded to have them built. One
did
> >show a photo of a B4R1 some years ago (labeled as a "CB&Q" 2-8-0), but I
> >don't think any were ever built.
> >
> >Given a choice, I'd probably model the 1957-59 (silver smokebox) era,
which
> >I remember.
> >
> >Bob Yarger, Editor
> >Railway Preservation News (free website)
> >www.rypn.org
> >
>
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