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Subject: RE: [BRHSlist] Information on CB&Q/BN
From: "Dave Lotz" <dave_lotz@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:57:14 -0600
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Hello Drew,

You?ve asked for a whole lot more information than most of us have time to
provide ? especially the reasons and logic behind the equipment chosen!

I can give you a briefing on the following:

The paint scheme for the Burlington Northern was chosen to represent the
colors of the northwest forests.  The Corporation held considerable
lumbering holdings and the rest of that industry would be a major customer
of the newly formed railroad.  It was also chosen because it did not contain
any of the predecessor colors.  All of the merger partners experimented with
variations on the paint, some with green, others not.  Even after the
merger, there were variations on the scheme ? most noticeable on the E
units.  I suggest the earliest BN Annual by F. Hol Wagner, published by
Motive Power Services in 1971.  The introduction of this booklet has a lot
of the information you seek.

The name came about in a meeting prior to the merger.  The railroad that was
going to be a result of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy; Great Northern;
Northern Pacific and the Spokane Portland & Seattle railroads had to that
point been referred to as the ?Great Northern, Burlington and Pacific
Railroad? but that fell in disfavor because of its length.  In the
referenced meeting, the Manager of passenger operations for the CB&Q
suggested the shortened version ?Burlington Northern? and that?s what stuck.

For your further  research, may I suggest a comprehensive bibliography we
have prepared on our web site at www.BurlingtonRoute.com
<http://www.burlingtonroute.com/> .  Also, I may suggest you review the BRHS
?s available back-issues that are for sale.  You may find some interesting
reading there as well.

Hope this helps!

Dave Lotz
BRHS



-----Original Message-----
From: werdnaregark [mailto:werdnaregark@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:26 PM
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BRHSlist] Information on CB&Q/BN

Howdy gentlemen,

My name is Drew Krager, and I am living in Bensenville, IL (a suburb
of Chicago), while attending college.  At this college I have been
requested to do a research paper and I am reporting on the CB&Q (and
at the same time brainstorming for my future layout!). I would like to
do a history of CB&Q/BN, using their decisions as a basis for a
present day CB&Q paint scheme.  I am wondering if any of you would
have any suggestions as to where I could find information about either
railroad; why it purchased the equiptment it did; the merger,
specifically why it happened and why they called it what they did:
Burlington Northern. Any information, be it books, journals or simply
talking to a knowledgable person, would be greatly apperciated!

Thanks

Drew Krager






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