Charlie,
I don't think I am of the caliper of Hol Wagner, but
who is. I will tell you, I was around Q steam engines,
in service and never saw a red lead tender deck, but
then again, I'm not saying that some the roundhouse
foremen didn't do it, to some engines for corrosion
prevention, just like the cab roofs. Like the cab
roofs, the tank deck would get black, QUICKLY! BTW,
the roofs were red lead not mineral red paint. In any
event, the red lead on the tank decks was not a "paint
scheme" and not a mechanical dept. standard, however,
it was a good corrosion prevention idea.
John
--- Charlie Vlk <cvlk@attbi.com> wrote:
> To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> From: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@attbi.com>
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 18:16:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Re: [Broadway Limited CB&Q
> 2-8-2
>
> Many of the contest models I have seen at the BRHS
> have had the red oxide
> tender decks. The color that is applied to the
> models is less Chinese Red
> than the rendition of the artwork.
> If some authority of the caliber of Hol Wagner can
> state with certainty that
> the tender decks didn't have red oxide paint I'll
> get Broadway to change it.
> Charlie Vlk
> Railroad Model Resources
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Barber" <clipperw@EarthLink.net>
> To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:03 AM
> Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: [Broadway Limited CB&Q 2-8-2
>
>
> > I have a number of pictures showing Q locomotive
> tenders from an
> > elevated position. None have red tender decks.
> They were always black.
> > Don't know where Broadway came up with that detail
> unless the original
> > USRA spec called for it when delivered. (Pennsy
> locomotives did have
> > red oxide paint on their tender decks.) As for the
> color of the cab
> > roof, all the pictures look too bright. Q used
> what looked like good
> > old mineral red on the cab roofs in regular
> service at least from the
> > earlier '30s. (I know, this discussion came up
> once before. My opinion
> > is that the first red cab roofs may have been
> applied when hudson #3000
> > was displayed at the Century of Progress in
> Chicago in 1933) I know
> > that all Q steam locomotives had red cab roofs by
> the late '30s or
> > early 1940's
> >
> > The color that Broadway is using looks more like
> the chinese red
> > unfortunately applied first to #5629 in 1959 for a
> fan trip. Later,
> > 5632 and a couple of C & S locomotives (638 and
> 641?) also had cab
> > roofs painted chinese red. However, in service, a
> color similar to
> > mineral red was the choice and, as previously
> stated, the color varied
> > significantly as the painted weathered in service.
> As soot and smoke
> > accumulated, the color looked almost black.
> >
> > Bill Barber
> >
> > On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 03:13 AM,
> BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:15:43 +0000
> > > From: railbass@attbi.com
> > > Subject: Broadway Limited CB&Q 2-8-2
> > >
> > > I too have been looking at the Broadway Limited
> website and noticed the
> > > diagram of the CB&Q Heavy 2-8-2. The item that
> struck me was that the
> > > cab
> > > roof and the tender deck are painted a bright
> red. I recall from my
> > > limited
> > > exposure to Q steam (fantrips) and what color
> photos in books that I
> > > have, the
> > > cab roof was painted a dark boxcar red type of
> color, not something
> > > that stood
> > > out like a bright red. For those more familiar
> with Q steam, would Q
> > > freight
> > > engines have such a color on them?
> > > - John Manion
> > > Denver, CO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
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