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Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: [Broadway Limited CB&Q 2-8-2
From: William Barber <clipperw@EarthLink.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:03:47 -0500
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I have a number of pictures showing Q locomotive tenders from an 
elevated position. None have red tender decks. They were always black. 
Don't know where Broadway came up with that detail unless the original 
USRA spec called for it when delivered. (Pennsy locomotives did have 
red oxide paint on their tender decks.) As for the color of the cab 
roof, all the pictures look too bright. Q used what looked like good 
old mineral red on the cab roofs in regular service at least from the 
earlier '30s. (I know, this discussion came up once before. My opinion 
is that the first red cab roofs may have been applied when hudson #3000 
was displayed at the Century of Progress in Chicago in 1933) I know 
that all Q steam locomotives had red cab roofs by the late '30s or 
early 1940's

The color that Broadway is using looks more like the chinese red 
unfortunately applied first to #5629 in 1959 for a fan trip. Later, 
5632 and a couple of C & S locomotives (638 and 641?) also had cab 
roofs painted chinese red. However, in service, a color similar to 
mineral red was the choice and, as previously stated, the color varied 
significantly as the painted weathered in service. As soot and smoke 
accumulated, the color looked almost black.

Bill Barber

On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 03:13 AM, BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>   Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:15:43 +0000
>    From: railbass@attbi.com
> Subject: Broadway Limited CB&Q 2-8-2
>
> I too have been looking at the Broadway Limited website and noticed the
> diagram of the CB&Q Heavy 2-8-2.  The item that struck me was that the 
> cab
> roof and the tender deck are painted a bright red.  I recall from my 
> limited
> exposure to Q steam (fantrips) and what color photos in books that I 
> have, the
> cab roof was painted a dark boxcar red type of color, not something 
> that stood
> out like a bright red.  For those more familiar with Q steam, would Q 
> freight
> engines have such a color on them?
> - John Manion
>   Denver, CO


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