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Re: [BRHSlist] Re: How come no E8/9 B's?

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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Re: How come no E8/9 B's?
From: Val Nelson <super-chief-val@c...>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:25:55 -0600
References: <b3dhgf+l755@e...> <002101c2dc37$7a21c260$6501a8c0@D...>
In regards to B-units, according the the Burlington Bulletin #10, page 5, author
Jim Sandrin states of the E5-B's:

"Very quickly, the Q learned just how inflexible an E B-unit could be in
passenger service. Many passenger runs requiered only one unit, and on runs
needing two units or more, turning the power could be avoided if there was an
A-unit on each end. Consequently, the five E5 B-units of 1940 became the only E
B-units ever acquired by the Burlington; all future purchases were of A-units,
only."

Hope this helps.
Val



Charlie Vlk wrote:

> Pure conjecture on my part.....
> They probably found that an AA set was superior to a AB set in that they did
> not require turning. Also the "hostlers" controls had to be a pain to use
> as compared to a normal cab when moving engines around (hostling).
> There must have been some correspondence on the subject which may be lost to
> history, as the Q never did anything without having built a pretty good case
> for their actions....
> I don't have the figures handy but it seems like B Units for passenger
> locomotives were not as popular in general...
> UP and Santa Fe (Es and Fs respectively) are the glaring exceptions...
> Charlie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jonathanharris@e...>
> To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:33 AM
> Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: How come no E8/9 B's?
>
> > Charlie --
> >
> > What "operational experience" with the E5 B units do you mean?
> > Are you saying the Q had trouble with them?
> >
> >
> > --- In BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > An interesting question.
> > > Suburban Service is an obvious answer, but does the logic
> > really apply?
> > > The Pooling of Suburban power didn't start until when?? Well
> > after all the
> > > E7s were purchased and by then the No B Units pattern had
> > been firmly
> > > established.
> > > I would guess that the operational experience with the E5B
> > units triggered
> > > the policy before the Suburban pooling with the Zephyr units
> > came into
> > > being.
> > > Also, there is an urban legend that the Q was very serious
> > about buying FM
> > > Trainmasters for suburban power (ala SP)..... That would be an
> > interesting
> > > series of articles (throw in the six wheel trailing truck on the
> > O5s!)
> > > .....experiments, proposals and could have beens based on
> > AFEs (if any
> > > survived!). Sort of like that fascinating chapter in Hol Wagner's
> > Colorado
> > > Road!!!
> > > Charlie
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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