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Re: [BRHSlist] Re: CB&Q Line from Old Monroe to Mexico Missouri

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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Re: CB&Q Line from Old Monroe to Mexico Missouri
From: "Haydens" <kliner@s...>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:26:19 -0600
References: <aqmuec+5fr0@e...>
Jeff, Mp 77.66 was about a mile east of New Truxton. As I recall it was a
steel trestle. Years after the fire I mentioned you could still see a
couple of the old steel box cars laying over on the side of the ravine
where they had dropped off the bridge into the creek and were later
bulldozed aside. One had been full of florescent lights I was told. The
High Line as we called it had mile posts that continued on from MP 51.6 at
Old Monroe to Francis MP 114.
----- Original Message -----
From: "meyerjd10" <jmeyer10@h...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:42 PM
Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: CB&Q Line from Old Monroe to Mexico Missouri


> Where exactly is MP 77.66 on the line? Near any city? Is it
> accessible, and what creek/river etc. does it cross, what type of
> bridge was it? Girder, timber, trestle, etc.? Any more info on this
> line would be really helpful, thanks to all who have responded, it is
> much more than I've expected. I'm a brand new member, and you've
> really helped me out. I'm the owner of the yahoo group
> StLouisRailroadInfo, and anyone from this group is encouraged to
> join, we have a large photo section of past and present rail shots.
> Please feel free to join. Thanks - Jeff Meyer
>
> --- In BRHSlist@y..., "Haydens" <kliner@s...> wrote:
> > List, Although the bridge east of Moscow was a long one, the most
> > impressive was the high trestle at MP 77.66. Sometime around 1965
> a train
> > went in the bighole(emergency) while crossing this trestle. The
> head
> > brakeman went back to check things out and found a car that was
> burning from
> > an over heated journal in the middle of the bridge. He pulled the
> pin on
> > the burning car and turned to signal the engineer to go ahead and
> pull the
> > car off of the bridge. Lo and behold, the engineer was standing
> right
> > beside him. Needless to say before he could get back into the
> engine the
> > bridge had caught fire and it burned down. The High line was out
> of service
> > for a long time. Another story was told of the engineer who had
> purchased a
> > very expensive pair of leather gloves. Sometime during the trip he
> noticed
> > that he had lost one of his gloves. He was so mad, he threw his
> remaining
> > glove off the top of the same trestle into the creek below. Later
> that
> > morning while the crew was waiting in the Old Monroe depot for
> orders or to
> > meet a train, the track rider came in with a brand new glove he
> had found
> > at Francis and asked if anyone had lost it. I remember Moscow had
> the
> > longest siding, but I remember clearing up at Wellsville, Haig, and
> Hawk
> > Point when we were short. In the mid 60's Moscow, Hawk Point, and
> > Wellsville all had open stations. Any other questions you might
> have, I'll
> > try to answer or ask some old heads that are on the pension.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Hirt" <whirt@a...>
> > To: <BRHSlist@y...>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] CB&Q Line from Old Monroe to Mexico Missouri
> >
> >
> > > meyerjd10 wrote:
> > >
> > > >>Does anyone out there have any info on this line? What was its
> > > >>official name? Where were passing sidings? I heard there was a
> > > >>
> > > > huge
> > > >
> > > >>steel trestle near Wellsville, anyone know where it was exactly?
> > > >>
> > > > If
> > > >
> > > >>anyone has photos or a timetable from this line, please let me
> > > >>
> > > > know. Any other history of the line, trains ran, stories, etc.
> will
> > > > help. I'm thinking of modeling it in the fall of 1969.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Mike Spoor's CB&Q in color volume 3 has pictures of freight trains
> > > moving through Mexico in the 1960's. Robert Brown's books on
> Missouri
> > > depots have pictures of most of the depots on the line. By 1969,
> they
> > > would have been boarded up and abandoned. Brown's book has a
> picture of
> > > the Francis depot in this state in 1963.
> > >
> > > In regards to the trestle, the track charts I have from the mid
> 60's
> > > show no such bridge near Wellsville. The only substantial bridge
> shown
> > > is east of Moscow crossing the Cuivre River (about a 600 foot
> span).
> > >
> > > By 1969, this line was a shadow of it's former self. This portion
> of the
> > > Q was called the Twenty-Third Subdivision - Branch Line. The only
> siding
> > > was a 23 car siding at Wellsville. One train was scheduled each
> way per
> > > day. The only open office/station was Old Monroe during the day.
> > >
> > > In the late 1950's, the name was Old Monroe and Francis -
> Subdivision.
> > > Three trains a day were scheduled each way including a doodlebug
> turn
> > > Old Monroe to Mexico (123/124). A 50 car siding was at Moscow, a
> 29 car
> > > siding at Wellsville, 26 car siding at Haig, and a 13 car siding
> at
> > > Francis. Open offices/stations were Old Monroe (continuous),
> Moscow (M-F
> > > days), Hawk Point (M-F days), Liege (M-F days), Wellsville (M-F
> days),
> > > and Francis (16 hours a day).
> > >
> > > According the 1964 track charts I have, the line was laid with
> mainly 90
> > > lb rail on cinder ballast between 1927 and 1938. 110 lb rail was
> laid
> > > between Francis and approximately MP 94.6 in 1951. The last major
> > > roadbed work on portions of the line was done in 1956.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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