Of course, the coal business got rid of the no-bill
car problem with unit trains and long term sales
contracts. The "spot market" coal gets stored in silos
and other coal storage devices not in railroad cars as
years ago. No-bill can also mean non-union employees.
And it can be applied to a worthless person. We still
have a few of those around!
By the way, the leased track system was used with some
degree of success with the coal traffic. Oh for the
good old days of the WW&IB! Read BB#35 for more on
no-bill in coal traffic.
John D. Mitchell, Jr.
--- Russell Strodtz <vlbg@p...> wrote:
> John,
>
> In some ways things have gotten better, in some ways
> worse. Right now is most common problem with
> "floaters" is in the plastic pellet business.
> Solution
> for that is making them lease a track at the
> location
> where they want to hold for billing. That makes the
> whole deal go much smoother. EDI seems to fail
> a lot because the customers do not understand what
> information is necessary. Hopefully the move to
> Internet based billing will be an educational one.
>
> The Grain Dept is doing great. Since these are all
> contract rates or COTS the RR already know where
> the cars are going. The whole point of this system
> is
> to get the maximum car utilization. The shuttle
> trains
> have 12 hours free time with the day divided up by
> the
> sixes. So if you spot a train at 10:00 you can call
> a
> midnight crew to get the loads/empties. Many times
> power is left at the elevator or just used to get
> the crew
> to and from their tieup point.
>
> Lumber business has improved a great deal. Will all
> the
> reload centers available the cars get turned around
> quickly
> and if the stuff isn't sold it doesn't matter 'cause
> it's on the
> ground or inside a warehouse.
>
> I think we are going to see a punitive system set up
> to get
> rid of both loads and empties that are holding for
> billing.
> Even with all the job cuts in this long downspin in
> revenue
> they seem to be willing to fund more Demurrage
> Analyst
> positions.
>
> Russ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@y...>
> To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 July, 2002 22:39
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] No Bills
>
>
> > No bill cars were also carloads of goods that had
> not
> > been consigned and/or sold yet, not just cars were
> > seperated from their waybills. When I have the
> time
> > I'll do a post on the whole "over, short &
> damaged"
> > problem and how the paperwork was handled. No bill
> > cars that were seperated from their waybills were
> > really part the "O,S & D" picture. Or as one the
> local
> > clerks used to say, "the ovary report".
> > John D, Mitchell, Jr.
> > --- qutlx1@a... wrote:
> > > Remember back in the paper waybill days all the
> no
> > > bill cars because the
> > > paperwork got seperated from the car?
> > >
> > > Well today despite EDI,scanners, tags,etc,etc
> the no
> > > bills are still with us.
> > > I dont hear them called that any more but today
> for
> > > example I received 3
> > > calls from the BNSF operations center about
> helping
> > > with cars with unknowm
> > > destinations. One call was for seven cars and
> > > another 5.
> > > Half or more of these cars are consistently tied
> to
> > > interline moves where the
> > > computers between carriers somehow drop the
> billing.
> > > Had 3 of those at Omaha
> > > today alone moving from U.P. to BNSF.
> > > The other major cause is when the EDI magic from
> > > shipper to RR doesn't quite
> > > work. The shipper electronically sends billing
> to
> > > the carrier whose computer
> > > confirms acceptance and correctness. The car
> gets
> > > pulled and then the RR
> > > doesn't know what to do with the car? Often
> times
> > > this results in the car
> > > coming back to shipper as the computer or a
> human
> > > grabs the last record in
> > > the box.
> > > Our shop in Cleveland,Tx has had that happen 5
> times
> > > in July. Cars come
> > > in,get repaired,leave and then a couple days
> later
> > > they're back!
> > > The more things change...........
> > > Leo
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
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