I would just like to take a moment to thank those that replied to my questions
about the Slumbercoach pools between the Denver Zephyr and the North Coast
Limited.
Ed Pavlovic
Stephen Levine wrote:
> Four NP slumbercoaches and two CB&Q slumbercoaches could protect the North
> Coast Limited and one slumbercoach car line on the DZ. This worked because
> one North Coast Consist would lay over in Chicago overnight. Thus the
> slumbercoach from that train would be placed on the outbound DZ, leaving at
> 5:00PM. The slumbercoach from the next morning's inbound DZ would immediately
> be sent out on the outbound North Coast.
>
> During the summer and also during the winter holidays, the DZ would run 2
> slumbercoaches. In July of 1961, I saw the NP Slumbercoach Loch Lomond on #1
> in Omaha as I passed her on #10, riding on the Q Slumbercoach Silver Siesta,
> which was running on the Colorado Springs-Chicago car line. The next morning,
> as I detrained in Chicago, I saw the NP Slumbercoach Loch Ness toward the
> front of our train, operating as the Denver-Chicago slumbercoach, the second
> one on our train.
>
> After the additional slumbercoaches were purchased by the Northern Pacific,
> only the 4 DZ slumbercoaches Silver Siesta, Silver Slumber, Silver Rest and
> Silver Repose operated on the DZ except for rare occasion (I did see the NP's
> Loch Sloy on the DZ in the spring of 1968 on one occasion). However, after
> the Burlington Northern merger, I generally saw the 4 original NP
> slumbercoaches on the DZ.
>
> sjl
>
> Stephen Levine and Linda Anderson
>
> steveandlindaare@h...
> If trains were just for kids...we wouldn't wanna grow up!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis C. Henry
> To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 10:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] CB&Q and NP Slumbercoach Pool Arrangements
>
> Ed,
>
> There were only five consists of NCL in the era being discussed. Take noon
> CST, for example. There would be a WB NCL that had just left Chicago, a
> second WB in the middle of Montana, and a third that had arrived in Seattle
> that AM. Then there was an EB in Montana, and an EB near Savanna,
> Illinois. Each set of equipment had about 21 hours in Chicago, but a short
> turn on the west end.
>
> I'd have to do some digging to answer the last parts of your questions.
>
> Dennis
>
> At 09:43 PM 9/2/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >I've noticed in a few books, namely Charles Rudisel's BN
> >Passenger Cars, and Todd Sullivan's NP Color Guide to
> >Freight and Passenger Equipment, that the CB&Q and the NP
> >pooled Slumbercoaches used on the North Coast Limited and
> >the Denver Zephyr. A Slumbercoach arriving on the DZ would
> >go out later that day on the NCL, with the inbound NCL
> >Slumbercoach would go out on the DZ. The question that I
> >have is considering the fact that the NCL used six sets of
> >equipment, that would mean that the DZ only required one
> >Slumbercoach. However, the Official Guide from February
> >1960 would make you think that two Slumbercoaches were used
> >on the DZ at the time. The car number/line number for the
> >Chicago to Colorado Springs car is given as CS-7, while the
> >Chicago to Denver car is given as CS-8. Were two cars used,
> >or were separate numbers used for the reservations?
> >
> >Was the pool continued after the additional eight
> >Slumbercoaches were purchased for the Mainstreeter in 1964?
> >The Q would purchase two of these cars, the 335 and the 336
> >in 1965 from the NP. I would think that the Q would have
> >wanted to continue the pool if they were only used two of
> >their four cars purchased for the DZ. Anyone on the list
> >have a definitive answer?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Ed Pavlovic
>
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