Four NP slumbercoaches and two CB&Q slumbercoaches could protect the North
Coast Limited and one slumbercoach car line on the DZ. This worked because one
North Coast Consist would lay over in Chicago overnight. Thus the slumbercoach
from that train would be placed on the outbound DZ, leaving at 5:00PM. The
slumbercoach from the next morning's inbound DZ would immediately be sent out
on the outbound North Coast.
During the summer and also during the winter holidays, the DZ would run 2
slumbercoaches. In July of 1961, I saw the NP Slumbercoach Loch Lomond on #1 in
Omaha as I passed her on #10, riding on the Q Slumbercoach Silver Siesta, which
was running on the Colorado Springs-Chicago car line. The next morning, as I
detrained in Chicago, I saw the NP Slumbercoach Loch Ness toward the front of
our train, operating as the Denver-Chicago slumbercoach, the second one on our
train.
After the additional slumbercoaches were purchased by the Northern Pacific,
only the 4 DZ slumbercoaches Silver Siesta, Silver Slumber, Silver Rest and
Silver Repose operated on the DZ except for rare occasion (I did see the NP's
Loch Sloy on the DZ in the spring of 1968 on one occasion). However, after the
Burlington Northern merger, I generally saw the 4 original NP slumbercoaches on
the DZ.
sjl
Stephen Levine and Linda Anderson
steveandlindaare@h...
If trains were just for kids...we wouldn't wanna grow up!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis C. Henry
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] CB&Q and NP Slumbercoach Pool Arrangements
Ed,
There were only five consists of NCL in the era being discussed. Take noon
CST, for example. There would be a WB NCL that had just left Chicago, a
second WB in the middle of Montana, and a third that had arrived in Seattle
that AM. Then there was an EB in Montana, and an EB near Savanna,
Illinois. Each set of equipment had about 21 hours in Chicago, but a short
turn on the west end.
I'd have to do some digging to answer the last parts of your questions.
Dennis
At 09:43 PM 9/2/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I've noticed in a few books, namely Charles Rudisel's BN
>Passenger Cars, and Todd Sullivan's NP Color Guide to
>Freight and Passenger Equipment, that the CB&Q and the NP
>pooled Slumbercoaches used on the North Coast Limited and
>the Denver Zephyr. A Slumbercoach arriving on the DZ would
>go out later that day on the NCL, with the inbound NCL
>Slumbercoach would go out on the DZ. The question that I
>have is considering the fact that the NCL used six sets of
>equipment, that would mean that the DZ only required one
>Slumbercoach. However, the Official Guide from February
>1960 would make you think that two Slumbercoaches were used
>on the DZ at the time. The car number/line number for the
>Chicago to Colorado Springs car is given as CS-7, while the
>Chicago to Denver car is given as CS-8. Were two cars used,
>or were separate numbers used for the reservations?
>
>Was the pool continued after the additional eight
>Slumbercoaches were purchased for the Mainstreeter in 1964?
>The Q would purchase two of these cars, the 335 and the 336
>in 1965 from the NP. I would think that the Q would have
>wanted to continue the pool if they were only used two of
>their four cars purchased for the DZ. Anyone on the list
>have a definitive answer?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Ed Pavlovic
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