Charlie and List,
I guess I was kind of hoping for some way to reproduce Z scale or even
smaller in any form, even plastic as the buildings and their placement would
really take center stage......Believe it or not the early Galesburg yard
will fit on a 6 by 10 foot layout rather nicely in N Scale. This would mean
reproducing Depot Street to Seminary Street east to west with the entire
yard as of 1861 north to south. This would take in the infamous "five
points" across to Seminary Street encompassing the shops, the original 1st
wooden coal chute (there were two), both early roundhouses plus the shops.
Throw in the station house and freight house for good measure. As we all
know, sometimes a little information is more confusing, than
helpful.........This 1861 map shows an unknown "engine house" with a
turntable sitting off by itself, almost under Seminary Street Tower. This
unknown turntable should not be confused ith the turntable of the 1856
roundhouse. I have found descriptions of the original yard 1854-1855 but
have a much better idea about 1861......Recently I have located a map of the
1890s which show the last of Galesburg's original (Cedar Street) yard. The
1890 yard would not fit on a 6 by 10 foot layout. The latter yard existed
right up until the opening of Galesburg's gravity hump yards of 1905-1906.
The Q was extremely quick to obliterate the original yard and make some
alignment changes on the passenger main. Bill ----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Vlk" <charlie@k...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [BRHSlist] Scale
> Z Scale is made in Germany by Marklin and in the US by MicroTrains. It is
> 1/220 proportion (N is 1/160, HO 1/87) but you will find it VERY expensive
> compared to N or HO.
> Galesburg has to work out larger than 6 x 10 in N..... I can't get my
> freelanced yard for Savanna on my mythical Galesburg & Savanna to work out
> less than 20' long and I only will be able to hold 300 cars...
> Charlie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Franckey [mailto:budapest@g...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:41 PM
> > To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Scale
> >
> >
> > Charlie and List,
> > For research purposes, that is so I can keep track of the
> > buildings as they
> > move around and/or are built and razed, is there a gauge
> > track smaller than
> > N ? I know the next size down is available but the cost is
> > rediculous.
> > I've acquired track diagrams of Galesburg yard 1861 and in N
> > scale this
> > works out to 6 by 10 foot. Does anyone have an idea where I
> > would look to
> > find an affordable way to reproduce acceptable looking track
> > and switches to
> > lay around the depot, roundhouses, shops etc.?
> >
> > Bill Sellic has generously loaded me down with the N scale
> > track, switches
> > and rolling stock to create early Galesburg. If I don't find a way of
> > scaling this down even further, I'll be forced to move one of
> > the cars out
> > of the garage........ (again)
> >
> > Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charlie Vlk" <charlie@k...>
> > To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:34 AM
> > Subject: RE: [BRHSlist] Scale
> >
> >
> > > Dale-
> > > I had the opposite perspective. In 1965, I became
> > frustrated because,
> > after
> > > getting an LMB O1a detailed for 4968 along with a Trains,
> > Inc. NE-1, I
> > > realized that I would have to scratchbuild all the Q
> > equipment to fill out
> > a
> > > decent sized freight between the two.
> > > So I decided to go into N Scale where my love for the
> > Burlington would not
> > > drive me crazy with trying to model it....no way you could
> > ever be tempted
> > > to model a specific railroad in such a tiny scale, right?
> > > Well, that lasted about five years. Untold investment in
> > brass CZ, E5s,
> > > FTs, DZs, and development of kits for 9900, and now,
> > manufacturing of mass
> > > produced business car "Burlington" and various prewar and
> > postwar Budd
> > cars
> > > later.... I am back modeling the Burlington...in N
> > Scale.....but not as
> > the
> > > primary interest.
> > > You are right about the train length... only problem is
> > (thank God for my
> > > wallet's sake) so far we haven't been blessed with O5, M4,
> > or S4 or other
> > > Burlington pattern steamers.
> > > I can't, in good conscious, propose them for mass
> > production, but who
> > knows
> > > what conversion kits might happen in the future.
> > > Now I look at all the wonderful material available in HO to
> > exactly model
> > > the Q.... and wonder if I was too hasty in jumping
> > scales.....but I do
> > love
> > > the ability to build a linear railroad in N....and if I
> > can't do a model
> > of
> > > Western Avenue Roundhouse in the 40's, it is some
> > compensation to be able
> > to
> > > run decent length freights, even if they are Galesburg &
> > Savanna Rwy.
> > > freelanced.
> > > Charlie Vlk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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