Author: "Mark Meyer via groups.io" <VerMontanan=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2023 21:10:40 -0800
Lots of good information surrounding the Black Hawk on this forum, but need some clarification. What year did the through Chicago cars from Great Northern's Western Star begin riding the Black Hawk b
The April 1954 Official Guide shows the Western Star as a separate train (No. 53) westbound from Chicago to St. Paul, with the westbound Mainstreeter and Black Hawk combined as train No. 47-1. The e
Author: "Mark Meyer via groups.io" <VerMontanan=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 16:17:33 -0800
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According to 1949, 1951, and later Burlington timetables, the postwar Oriental Limited and its 1951 replacement the Western Star were always part of the Blackhawk between Chicago and St. Paul. As I i
I should add that I don't have a May 1953 timetable, but I do have May 1950, May 1951, May 1956, and May 1957, and they all show the Star and Blackhawk having identical schedules between Chicago and
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The Western Star was a secondary train that stopped in Aurora to take on commuters to Chicago, while the Empire Builder did not. I rode the Western Star (not sure of the exact date-but probably in th
Author: "Mark Meyer via groups.io" <VerMontanan=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 18:55:24 -0800
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Author: "Mark Meyer via groups.io" <VerMontanan=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 19:10:41 -0800
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Author: "Mark Meyer via groups.io" <VerMontanan=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 19:14:24 -0800
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Author: "Bill Schultz via groups.io" <jwschultz9=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 07:02:11 +0000 (UTC)
Beginning June 3, 1951, the Western Star replaced the Oriental Limited and continued to consolidate with the Black Hawk south of St. Paul. Effective with the February-April 1953 public timetable (in
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Author: "Mark Meyer via groups.io" <VerMontanan=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:20:39 -0800
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Back in December, there was some discussion on when the Western Star and other GN/NP transcons were combined with the Black Hawk and when they were run as separate trains. I've gone through most of t