Re: [CBQ] Operations Questions About Dedicated Service

["William Hirt" <whirt@fastmail.com>]

Ricky,

We forget that the large national department stores (e.g. J.C. Penney, Montgomery Ward, and Sears, Roebuck & Co.) all had regional warehouses that served both their retail stores and catalog customers. They could easily take a car load or two at a time of appliances.

They also went to smaller retailers. This example from CB&Q Train 97's consist (Galesburg to Savanna) on July 2, 1966:

ATSF

31632

LB

40' PS-1 Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1950. Class Bx-57. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #31250-31749.

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Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

This is from CB&Q Train 97's consist listing (Galesburg to Savanna) on June 4, 1966:

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275173

LB

40' 1944 AAR Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1948 by GATC. Class Bx-51. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #274750-275499.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

35547

LB

40' 1944 AAR Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1952. Class Bx-63. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #35250-35998.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

270796

LB

40' Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Youngstown Sliding Door. Class Bx-42. Rebuilt 1944-45 from Class Bx-9 and Bx-10. IH 11'. Series #270500-271033. Photo in Santa Fe Freight in Color The Series Vol. 1 Boxcars on p21.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

38029

LB

40' 1944 AAR Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1952. Class Bx-62. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #38000-38699.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

31186

LB

40' 1944 AAR Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1949-51. Class Bx-53. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #30000-31249.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

274127

LB

40' 1944 AAR Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1946 by P-S. Class Bx-48. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #274000-274749. Photo in Santa Fe Freight in Color The Series Vol. 1 Boxcars on p23 and p24.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

21555

LB

40' Steel Box w/8' Grain Plug Door. Class Bx-85. Rebuilt 1965 from Class Bx-12. Series #21447-21946. Photo in Santa Fe Freight Cars The Series Vol. 1 Boxcars on p56.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

19066

LB

40' Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1929 by Pullman. Rebuilt 1956 w/Steel Sides. Class Bx-11. Series #19000-20550. Photo in Santa Fe Freight Cars The Series Vol. 1 Boxcars on p7.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

30397

LB

40' 1944 AAR Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1949-51. Class Bx-53. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #30000-31249.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

19123

LB

40' Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1929 by Pullman. Class Bx-11. Series #19000-20550.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

21351

LB

40' Steel Box w/8' Grain Plug Door. Class Bx-85. Rebuilt 1965 from Class Bx-12. Series #20997-21446. Photo in Santa Fe Freight Cars The Series Vol. 1 Boxcars on p55.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

33682

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40' Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1950-51 by ACF. Class Bx-59. Series #33500-33999.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

35020

LB

40' 1944 AAR Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1951. Class Bx-60. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #34000-35049.

10

Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

272680

LB

40' Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Class Bx-46. Rebuilt 1945 from Bx-9 and Bx-10. Youngstown Sliding Door. IH 11'. Series #272000-272977. Photo in Santa Fe Freight in Color The Series Vol. 1 Boxcars on p23.

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Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

ATSF

276068

LB

40' 1944 AAR Steel Box w/6' Door Opening. Built 1948. Class Bx-50. Youngstown Sliding Door. Series #275500-276499.

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Refrigerators

Savanna IL

MILW

Dubuque

IA

Gamble Skogmo

Galesburg IL

Midwest

If a retailer had a warehouse that service stores in an area, it is a candidate for receiving carload quantities.

I sometimes laugh today about people are amazed when retailers offer same day delivery. When I moved to Kansas City in 1980, you could call either Penney's, Sears or Wards, and if the item was in stock, they would have it ready for you to pick up in an hour at their local warehouse. And they did not charge anything extra for that.

Bill Hirt

On 8/18/2024 12:32 PM, Rick Keil wrote:

Questions about dedicated service cars

I am going to use appliances as the example but it could be anything. 

There were cars assigned to appliance makers like Hotpoint, Whirlpool etc. I understand the shipping part, the cars are assigned to the specific factory for loading.

What is murky to me is where do the cars go to be unloaded? I imagine a single consignee, let's say Montgomery Ward, could take quite a few out of a load, but what about mom and pop appliance stores? 

Would a destination like Omaha wait until they had a load large enough to be cost effective? 

Could multiple consignees have appliances on the same car?

Where would they be unloaded? The Burlington Freight House, some other warehouse?

Food stuffs seem a bit more straightforward as there were wholesalers and grocery store distribution for a particular brand. 

But what about other stuff in stores like Procrorvand Gamble products. The Q has dedicated cars for that service too.

Thanks from an ignorant non railroader.

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