I hadn't even considered the C&I. It could have swung south almost
anywhere between Sugar Grove and the current west end of Aurora Siding.
Would that be the West Yard at Eola? I had thought Eola Yard was older
than that. I should have known better; I'm pretty sure I read the
Bulletin about the elevation.
--
David Streeter
On 6/8/2023 11:23 AM, Leo Phillipp via groups.io wrote:
David,
I like your idea about paralleling bypass 30 which was developed in the early 60s
at the insistence of Aurora mayor Paul Egan. (Most folks look at me with a blank
stare when I say bypass 30). As that would allow the C&I to swing south from
around Sugar Grove.
By the way the first 6 tracks at Eola date to about 1910/1911 as a prepatory
move as to compensate for Aurora yard tracks lost to the upcoming elevation.
Leo Phillipp
On Jun 8, 2023, at 11:11 AM, trains@davidstreeter.net wrote:
I could see such a line roughly paralleling the present-day US 30 (which itself is a
relatively new bypass; I had a friend who was born in 1968 and called it Bypass 30) from where it
crosses the Q south of Montgomery to its junction with US 34, then that to the parcel of land the Q
owned on the west side of Naperville ("Nabisco"). I could also see that line turning north
to parallel the EJ&E to Eola. An awful lot of things would be different today if either of these
had happened.
I don't see how a line starting 25+ miles southwest of Montgomery and going
west could have had anything to do with it.
--
David Streeter
On 6/8/2023 10:00 AM, Leo Phillipp via groups.io wrote:
Last night I spent a very enjoyable and educational hour reading articles on the new
BRHS Digital library. Rupert and Jack are to be commended. It’s easy to use and a literal
gold mine for research on the Q.
I focused on the section about “Depots,Stations and Freight Stores” (would suggest changing
this to Depots,Stations,Freight houses and Storehouses). As an example of what’s now at our
fingertips, I learned so much I didn’t know about the construction of the Aurora elevation despite
previously reading everything I could find on the subject.
One line in one of the articles stated the Q studied an Aurora,IL bypass that
would have been 16 miles long around Aurora to avoid all the street crossings.
It was eventually decided against it. Then the city of Aurora made the decision
to elevate mandatory with an ordinance. Despite looking through Q annual
reports from 1907-1915 I could learn nothing more about the potential bypass.
From my operational experiences my guess is would have swung east a bit before
Montgomery and run NE to around Naperville.
Charlie Vlk once mentioned that based on his research, he believed the
Joliet,Rockford and Northern, commonly known as the Burgess Jct. To Paw Paw line
was part of the bypass. Based on what I read last night that the Q researched the
bypass in 1908 while the J.R.&N. was built in 1881(I believe to move Streator
coal north via Paw Paw and Shabbona or Rockfalls/Sterling/Denrock) that likely was
not the case.
Does anyone have additional info. On the potential Aurora bypass ?
Thanks,
Leo Phillipp
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