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Re: [CBQ] Effie Dean

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From: "mike cafferata" <mcaff1952@outlook.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 19:53:11 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Effie Dean

Here is photo of the Effie Dean that I took in DuQuoin IL in Feb 2008.

 

Mike Cafferata

 

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From: Rupert Gamlen
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 1:13 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Effie Dean

 

Dave

No, I checked Bulletin 13 and couldn’t find any reference to 500. The only references I found were in Zephyr 57 when it was going to Granite City in 2007 and Bulletin 50 notes that it was added to the Pioneer Zephyr in 1938.

Rupert

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Lotz
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:56 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Effie Dean

 

This car is the 500 car built for the Pioneer Zephyr and swapped into other three-car Zephyr sets as needed.  If I remember correctly, BB13 has more detailed info on it.

 

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From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:45:15 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Effie Dean

 

Dave

Thanks for this. There seems to be an acute shortage of information on this car.

Rupert

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Lotz
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 1:21 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Effie Dean

 

Rupert,

 

I can give you a more accurate answer later, but the 500 was given the name while in the ownership of John C. Lowe and two other individuals who formed the Mark Twain Corporation, which was headed by Mr. Ronald Lorenzini. They took ownership late in 1987.

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 3:55:14 AM
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Subject: [CBQ] Effie Dean

 

Does anyone know when dinette-chair car #500 (ex-Pioneer Zephyr) was renamed Effie Dean. Was it when the Mark Twain Zephyr went to Wisconsin Great Northern?

Thanks

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

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