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Re: [CBQ] SSS and aluminum paint

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From: "HOL WAGNER" <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:08:48 +0000
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Rupert:

One more Pullman to add to the list of those painted solid gray (with black roof):  CB&Q 602 New Farnam.

Hol


From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:55 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: [CBQ] SSS and aluminum paint
 

I‘ve attached an accumulated list of SSS and aluminum painted equipment identified in e-mails, etc. over the years. Any additions?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Popish via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 14 January 2022 12:43 pm
To: cvlk@comcast.net; CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Any idea why the name os this Pullman was?

 

Burlington Bulletin Number 10 on the SSS chair cars has a comprehensive explanation on page 8 of which CB&Q cars received shadow lining. The article is authored by Bill Schultz and edited by Hol Wagner, noted CB&Q passenger car authorities.

 

The article states only four Pullman sleepers utilized by the Burlington received silver paint and shadow lining. These included the #659 Clover Veldt 8-5, the #670 Poplar Flat 6-6 and the #676 and #677 Happy Hollow Club and Lancaster Club 1-2-2-2's. These were painted in this scheme to serve as protection or substitute cars for Denver Zephyr service.  Photos of these cars appear in William Glick's "Burlington Passenger Car Photo Album", although later in their lifespan so the shadow lining is barely discernible in some photos.

 

None of the Pullman Betterment cars that ran in the 1940's on the Zephyr Rocket and the Exposition Flyer (Zephyr Tower, Rocket Tower, Missouri Tower, Denver Tower, Minneapolis or Cedar Rapids) received the shadow lining but rather only a straight silver paint scheme.

As mentioned the six Texas Zephyr Betterment Pullmans received multi-colored silver areas below and above the windows but did not receive shadow lining.

 

Hopefully this is of value in this issue.

 

Dennis Popish  

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From: Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net>
To: CBQ@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jan 13, 2022 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Any idea why the name os this Pullman was?

I don’t believe the Texas Zephyr betterment cars received the simulated corrugation treatment, only different shades of aluminum/silver paint to simulate stainless steel.

Zephyr Tower and Rocket Tower used on the Zephyr Rocket did get the full scheme.  Offhand, I don’t know about the Missouri Tower and Denver Tower.

A number of other heavyweight Pullmans did get the scheme as well as some Burlington Route owned cars.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Belsher
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Any idea why the name os this Pullman was?

 

Not sure of the name but it appears to be one of the Texas Zephyr Heavyweight Pullmans with the Faux stripes painted to mimic the Stainless Steel Fluting on the lightweight cars.

 

Bill Belsher

Modeling the Fort Worth & Denver in N Scale

 

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022, 11:01:25 PM CST, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Or any other info like type and plan?

 

 

 

Thanks!

Brian Ehni

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Attachment: CB&Q 602 'New Farnam,' Chicago, Ill., 9-1962, Ken Crist photo, Hol Wagner coll..jpg
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