Re: [CBQ] Shovelnose Prime Movers

["jpslhedgpeth via groups.io" <jpslhedgpeth=aol.com@groups.io>]

Slight correction  the "Entering of the Mikado"  took place at NAPIER, MO  October 4, 1939.

Pete  

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From: Steven Holding <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Thu, Apr 15, 2021 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Shovelnose Prime Movers

The  Flying Yankee was also of this type and was suppose to be in an engine house out East being restored.  The problem was making/finding parts for the 201 and there has been no info as to the status lately.

There is a 201 deep in the barn the Zephyr sleeps in at IRM

Steve in SC

On Thursday, April 15, 2021, 12:45:27 AM EDT, William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com> wrote:

Charlie,

All of the first eight shovel nose Zephyrs had 201/ 201A engines in them up to the end of their service. No. 9900 had at least two different engine during its operation. Its original 201 was removed at some point in time and returned to EMD. The story is in the Bulletin, but as I recall, it was installed in a switcher locomotive. When that locomotive was traded in years later, someone was checking the serial number and realized that it was the original 9900 engine. Eventually, it was cosmetically restored and donated to the Smithsonian Museum in Washington, DC. Considering the damage when PZ encountered the mikado at Hamburg, IA, it may have had more than two different 201s.

I am aware of no evidence that any of the other units were ever modified with a different engine other than a 201. It is, however, possible that the engines were changed around between units as they were overhauled at West Burlington. One question that I have concerns the Mark Twain Zephyr. Several articles that I have read indicate that the RR removed the engine before selling the train to the first private owner. However, sometime in the late 1960s or early 1970s, I saw the MTZ at the Threshermen’s park in Mt. Pleasant, IA.I would swear that, at that time, both the engine and the generator were still in the power car. I thought that I had a photo of it, but I haven’t found it so far. Other than scrap value, I am not sure why the RR would want to remove an obsolete engine from the locomotive.

It will be interesting to see how the Wisconsin Great Northern installs the 6-567C engine into the carbody of the MTZ. My recollection is that the original 201A was an in line six. The 6-567C engine from the SW600 is a standard configuration V-6. There wasn’t much room in the Zephyr carbodies for the original engine, let alone a V type engine.

Bill Barber

Gravois Mills, MO

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