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From: "Ken Martin via groups.io" <kmartin537=surewest.net@groups.io>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 23:01:36 -0700
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Bill,

I saw the MTZ at My Pleasant in 1967 and it had the engine in it but it was in 
terrible shape.

Ken Martin


> On Apr 14, 2021, at 9:45 PM, William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Charlie,
> 
> All of the first eight shovel nose Zephyrs had 201/ 201A engines in them up 
> to the end of their service. No. 9900 had at least two different engine 
> during its operation. Its original 201 was removed at some point in time and 
> returned to EMD. The story is in the Bulletin, but as I recall, it was 
> installed in a switcher locomotive. When that locomotive was traded in years 
> later, someone was checking the serial number and realized that it was the 
> original 9900 engine. Eventually, it was cosmetically restored and donated to 
> the Smithsonian Museum in Washington, DC. Considering the damage when PZ 
> encountered the mikado at Hamburg, IA, it may have had more than two 
> different 201s. 
> 
> I am aware of no evidence that any of the other units were ever modified with 
> a different engine other than a 201. It is, however, possible that the 
> engines were changed around between units as they were overhauled at West 
> Burlington. One question that I have concerns the Mark Twain Zephyr. Several 
> articles that I have read indicate that the RR removed the engine before 
> selling the train to the first private owner. However, sometime in the late 
> 1960s or early 1970s, I saw the MTZ at the Threshermen’s park in Mt. 
> Pleasant, IA.I would swear that, at that time, both the engine and the 
> generator were still in the power car. I thought that I had a photo of it, 
> but I haven’t found it so far. Other than scrap value, I am not sure why the 
> RR would want to remove an obsolete engine from the locomotive. 
> 
> It will be interesting to see how the Wisconsin Great Northern installs the 
> 6-567C engine into the carbody of the MTZ. My recollection is that the 
> original 201A was an in line six. The 6-567C engine from the SW600 is a 
> standard configuration V-6. There wasn’t much room in the Zephyr carbodies 
> for the original engine, let alone a V type engine. 
> 
> Bill Barber
> Gravois Mills, MO



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